Rural signals

[Trains1]

Hello does anyone know where I can find a map of rural signals I have looked on OTT but can't see them

Thanks

 

[12LDA28C]

Hello does anyone know where I can find a map of rural signals I have looked on OTT but can't see them

Thanks

What does that mean? 'Rural signals'???

 

[Trains1]

Thinking about it I was thinking like branch lines that haven't yet been computer controlled

 

[greatkingrat]

Many of the more rural lines have older signalling systems that do not provide the necessary information to allow live maps to be produced.

 

[The exile]

There are several threads on mechanical signalling, which probably give you what you’re after.

 

[DennisM]

Hello does anyone know where I can find a map of rural signals I have looked on OTT but can't see them

Thanks

I believe flashing your headlights is one rural signal, although I’m unsure of the meaning

 

[12LDA28C]

Thinking about it I was thinking like branch lines that haven't yet been computer controlled

What exactly do you want to see? Physical maps showing the location of signals in rural locations nationwide? TOCs / FOCs and NR will have such maps but they are not for public consumption.

 

[Trains1]

Thinking about it I was thinking like branch lines that haven't yet been computer controlled

That's what I was thinking is there a way get a diagram of them?

 

[12LDA28C]

That's what I was thinking is there a way get a diagram of them?

If you're replying to me then as I suggested, they are not for public consumption and even if they were you won't find them all on one 'diagram', each route will have it's own map. I'm sure you can appreciate that will be a lot of maps for all 'rural' lines nationwide, once you determine exactly what a 'rural' line is, whether you mean semaphore signals, remote lines away from major centres of population or whatever.

 

[takno]

There isn't any central source which is publicly available.

If you just want to know what trackwork and signal boxes exist in an area then you can get that information from the Sectional Appendices on the Network Rail website (or probably from Quail track diagrams - I've never actually looked at those so I'm not sure what information is on them).

If you want to know what signals exist, then for the most part the information just isn't all that useful or interesting without a live feed. If there is something you specifically want to find out you may be able to find photos including the box diagrams for some of the hundreds of boxes at photos.signalling.org, and various other places such as llangollen_signalman on flickr.

 

[Freightmaster]

Thinking about it I was thinking like branch lines that haven't yet been computer controlled

Can you give any examples of specific lines that you are interested in?



MARK

 

[Trains1]

Can you give any examples of specific lines that you are interested in?



MARK

mainly the mid-Cheshire line from Northenden to Chester

 

[Freightmaster]

mainly the mid-Cheshire line from Northenden to Chester

If you want to know the location of the signals on lines like that, a 'drivers eye view' video
can be a great resource. I highly recommend Don Coffey's channel in particular:

Don Coffey

The best cab ride channel on YouTube!

www.youtube.com

Here is his video covering the Chester to Northenden route:

(it takes a bit of practice, but you can read off individual signal numbers if you pause
the video at just the right time)




MARK

 

[JN114]

The Mid-Cheshire line is covered in SimSig

Product - Details | SimSig - Simulator of Railway Signalling Systems

Experience railway signalling/dispatching control centres through SimSig, a commercial train simulator that lets you operate and route trains to their destination.

www.simsig.co.uk

In the simulation manual is a diagram of signal numbers that should satisfy up to a “casual interest” level of detail.

 

[Magdalia]

Most manual signal boxes have diagrams usually displayed above the lever frame.

Pictures of these can sometimes be found on flickr, for example, Northenden Junction here:

Northenden Junction box diagram

One of the older style diagrams still around, with evidence of past infrastructure erasings by the S&T following alterations. The line to Edgeley No.1 is worked by Acceptance Levers and the lights in the top left of the diagram indicate whether a train has been accepted at either Edgeley or...

www.flickr.com

Northenden Junction box diagram​

One of the older style diagrams still around, with evidence of past infrastructure erasings by the S&T following alterations. The line to Edgeley No.1 is worked by Acceptance Levers and the lights in the top left of the diagram indicate whether a train has been accepted at either Edgeley or Northenden.

Still to be removed from the current set up are the now disconnected Blue Circle cement sidings ("Station Sidings Ground Frame") and reference to lever no.15 (and the little detonator insignia) that used to indicate the location of the box detonator placers.

August 2021.​