Rule Book Module TW1

[scousethomas]

Anyone able to put section 4.6 of the above mentioned module into plain english or know of a website which explains all the sections?

Thanks

 

[CyrusWuff]

Anyone able to put section 4.6 of the above mentioned module into plain english or know of a website which explains all the sections?

Which issue of the module? The current one (Issue 8) or the one that comes into force in December (Issue 9)?

 

[scousethomas]

The current one, number 8 in force now

 

[GB]

It basicly means that if your train is detained on a running line facing the wrong direction (ie your on the same line facing on coming traffic) tail lights should be displayed on the leading end. Ie red lights facing on coming traffic on the same line and turn off rear lights.

Not required on bi-di lines where trains can be signalled in either direction.

 

[Matt Taylor]

Reds at the front I can understand, but why no lights at the rear? What if the train has failed and requires assistance from the rear?

 

[JB25]

Reds at the front I can understand, but why no lights at the rear? What if the train has failed and requires assistance from the rear?

Then I think you would put whatever lights at that end of the train. If you leave a detached portion in a section you leave tails on both ends.

 

[W230]

4.6 Lights when detained on a running line which is used by trains travelling in the opposite direction

If your train is crossed over to a line on which trains run in the
opposite direction and the movement is then detained, you must
during darkness, fog or falling snow or if in a tunnel, make sure
that you:
• switch on the tail lamp at the front of the train
• have switched off all other lights at the front and rear of the
train.
You do not need to carry out this instruction if the line on which
you are detained is bi-directional

Having re-read it, I can see the point about switching off all lights on the rear of the train being confusing. I'd assumed you would have some form of light on the rear of the train but apparently not according to the above? :?

 

[hairyhandedfool]

Reds at the front I can understand, but why no lights at the rear? What if the train has failed and requires assistance from the rear?

Bear in mind that, in this situation, from any other drivers perspective the rear of your train is the front and the front of your train is the rear. Tail lights on at the front of a train is a way of indicating to other drivers that they must stop their trains as an emergency situation has occurred. Headlights and marker lights are only required at the front of the train and are therefore an indication that the train is headed that way, and thus would also be confusing if the head/marker lights were lit at, what is perceived to be, the rear.

 

[W230]

Headlights and marker lights are only required at the front of the train and are therefore an indication that the train is headed that way, and thus would also be confusing if the head/marker lights were lit at, what is perceived to be, the rear.

Absolutely, which is why i'd assumed until I re-read the above, that you would in effect be showing tail lights at both ends. but the bit below doesn't read like that to me:

• switch on the tail lamp at the front of the train
• have switched off all other lights at the front and rear of the
train.

 

[hairyhandedfool]

Tail lights at the front, as perceived by the driver of an approaching train, is a sign that all trains need to stop because of an emergency situation, as I noted, thus it would cause confusion just like the headlights and marker lights would. If head, marker and tail lights would all cause confusion, logically, none should be used.