I suppose that was the advantage of the old slam door trains.That's why they should give every ten people their own door
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anti-pacer
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I got on a train at Wakefield Westgate recently, and whilst it was standing room only, there was the inevitable gap in the middle of the carriage. Nobody seemed to move, despite the presence of several people trying to board.
What makes me laugh is the tutting and sighing of people trying to board, but the unwillingness to actually say anything.
Fortunately (or unfortunately - depending on your viewpoint) I will have my say, so asked if people could move down. Slight shuffling took place! I then raised my voice slightly, and couldn't help myself, and bellowed, "Could the gentleman who is at the head of this line of standing passengers please display some common sense and move down. You're actually preventing people from getting on, so do us all a favour and move closer to the person ahead of you, I'm sure they're very nice"!
Slightly obnoxious of me no doubt, but it worked and it gave several passengers a giggle!
What makes me laugh is the tutting and sighing of people trying to board, but the unwillingness to actually say anything.
Fortunately (or unfortunately - depending on your viewpoint) I will have my say, so asked if people could move down. Slight shuffling took place! I then raised my voice slightly, and couldn't help myself, and bellowed, "Could the gentleman who is at the head of this line of standing passengers please display some common sense and move down. You're actually preventing people from getting on, so do us all a favour and move closer to the person ahead of you, I'm sure they're very nice"!
Slightly obnoxious of me no doubt, but it worked and it gave several passengers a giggle!
To be fair if I have to stand I prefer to stand near the door where there more likely to be something to lean against or hold on to, and its not a major effort to try and get past everybody to get off, rather than in the middle of the carriage
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Certainly not obnoxious, you were polite and clear so I cant see the problem, the fact that you shamed him into moving, managed to get on the train and gave other people a giggle are added bonuses.
anti-pacer
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I do the same when people are trying to push their way ONTO a train before I've got off.
That line goes.... "Please let us OFF the train before you try get on. It's not only good manners, it's also logistically easier. Thank you all"!
Just can't help myself sometimes! ??????
For some people, merely asking someone if they could do something, is perceived as demanding.
And given the specific choice of words they used, the OP seemed the sort to take offence if asked to do anything.
Apart from being on the phone, I don't really see what else he did wrong (also being fat and a businessman, which are somehow relevant?...).
I've seen similar happen; the vestibule was packed to the point where nobody could board but there was nobody at all standing inside the carriage itself. It took one person to shout to move people down, they did, everybody boarded and there was no problem. It wasn't even particularly packed once people had spread out.
What's the alternative? Out of politeness stay on the platform and spend the next 30 minutes tutting about it? I suppose at least you could spend that time penning a letter to the daily Telegraph about how the country has gone to the dogs.
It sounds like somebody did need to be told to move and there is no point whispering it!
Just don't take it personally if you're not the one causing the problem.
(I think it's time for a Japanese Metro reminder...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA8EiOJdUrM
I've seen similar happen; the vestibule was packed to the point where nobody could board but there was nobody at all standing inside the carriage itself. It took one person to shout to move people down, they did, everybody boarded and there was no problem. It wasn't even particularly packed once people had spread out.
What's the alternative? Out of politeness stay on the platform and spend the next 30 minutes tutting about it? I suppose at least you could spend that time penning a letter to the daily Telegraph about how the country has gone to the dogs.
It sounds like somebody did need to be told to move and there is no point whispering it!
Just don't take it personally if you're not the one causing the problem.
(I think it's time for a Japanese Metro reminder...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA8EiOJdUrM
RichmondCommu
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That's why they should give every ten people their own door
I can understand not cramming people on if it's a ten minute frequency, but in most places it could be quite a long wait.
I can see where this is going
The problem with Slammers amongst other things is the issue of dispatch in that you are relying on commuters to shut the doors!
Nym
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I can see where this is going
Heh, theres enough problems with them standing in closing automatic doors or holing them open for seemingly no reason sometimes...
RichmondCommu
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Not that you were seeking attention :roll:
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This certainly happens on the Tube with regard to bags preventing the closure of doors. It's not unusual for the driver to have to raise the issue via the intercom!
anti-pacer
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Actually I was trying to belittle someone who was lacking in basic manners and common sense. Attention didn't come into it, and why would it? I didn't think about passengers reaction, I was more interested in getting to Leeds.
RichmondCommu
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By actively seeking to belittle someone (and admitting that you were obnoxious) that doesn't make you any better than the individual at the head of the queue. You were clearly very pleased with yourself that you'd managed to raise a laugh or too which would suggest that you were indeed seeking attention.
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anti-pacer
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Your entitled to your opinion, however wrong it may be.
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What gets up my goat are people trying to board a train when I'm trying to get off the same train.
anti-pacer
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Me too!
Bohemian
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All it takes is a little thought about how other people feel. Everyone can have a bad day, but there is no excuse to treat strangers as though they are cattle or that they mean nothing compared to the life you are living. At the end of the day, we all want to get home as quick as we can.
I have seen some negative comments on here, and some positive ones. It takes nothing to make an effort to be nice, but to treat anyone with a lack of respect is arrogance.
I have seen some negative comments on here, and some positive ones. It takes nothing to make an effort to be nice, but to treat anyone with a lack of respect is arrogance.
anti-pacer
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Unfortunately the nice, softly softly approach seems to have little effect.
I agree that we should all be nice to each other, it would make for a much more pleasant world. However, there seems to be this "just as long as I'm OK" attitude amongst many in this day and age, and unfortunately bad manners brings out some of mine. It doesn't make it right, I accept that, and maybe I'll try a politer approach in future, but peoples lack of common sense in situations which cause problems for others really gets my goat.
You sometimes hear announcements on trains asking people to move down the train and more often than not, it falls on deaf ears. People seem to live in their own little bubbles, with no thought for those around them.
I myself will commit to trying a nicer approach from now on though.
I'm waiting for the version of events involving the words "I'm a season ticket holder, I have shares in FGW, my best friend is the Chief Executive, ergo I am allowed to bellow down the train demanding the proles move along to make room for the real passengers....
Wivenswold
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The rudest customer I had in my booking office days was a woman who pushed straight to the front of the queue and demanded to know how she got to Barking "I asked at the barrier and they just laughed at me. Perhaps one of you morons can help me instead".
"Yes", I said "The District Line comes here"
I worked at Barking.
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I was also threatened with a knife, though bullet-proof glass. I laughed at him and he ran off.
"Yes", I said "The District Line comes here"
I worked at Barking.
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I was also threatened with a knife, though bullet-proof glass. I laughed at him and he ran off.
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