Rover question

[crucible72]

I am thinking of purchasing the Freedom of Devon & Cornwall Rover 3 in 7 Days
for doing a bit of travelling around this area, however I am bothered by it saying on the
national rail website that it is not valid in both directions. What does this mean?

Does it mean for example, that if I travelled from Exmouth to Paignton, or Exeter to Penzance, that the rover
would not be valid for going back again and I would have to buy another ticket to continue my journey?
I notice that the 8 in 15 day rover says that one is valid in both directions.

 

[The exile]

I am thinking of purchasing the Freedom of Devon & Cornwall Rover 3 in 7 Days
for doing a bit of travelling around this area, however I am bothered by it saying on the
national rail website that it is not valid in both directions. What does this mean?

Does it mean for example, that if I travelled from Exmouth to Paignton, or Exeter to Penzance, that the rover
would not be valid for going back again and I would have to buy another ticket to continue my journey?
I notice that the 8 in 15 day rover says that one is valid in both directions.

Subject to time restrictions , the ticket is valid for unlimited journeys in the area of validity. Someone’s ticked the wrong box somewhere. You can spend all 3 days shuttling between Exeter and Exmouth if you want to!!!!

 

[Chris Butler]

It would help if you provided the actual quote or a link.

I am thinking of purchasing the Freedom of Devon & Cornwall Rover 3 in 7 Days
for doing a bit of travelling around this area, however I am bothered by it saying on the
national rail website that it is not valid in both directions. What does this mean?

Does it mean for example, that if I travelled from Exmouth to Paignton, or Exeter to Penzance, that the rover
would not be valid for going back again and I would have to buy another ticket to continue my journey?
I notice that the 8 in 15 day rover says that one is valid in both directions.

It would help if you provided the actual quote or a link.

 

[Watershed]

Rangers and rovers are valid for unlimited travel within the relevant dates and areas of validity, albeit usually subject to time restrictions on weekdays (the Freedom of Devon & Cornwall is valid from 9am Mon-Fri).

You can travel over a given route as often as you like.

 

[realemil]

As mentioned above, this appears to be simply an incorrect box tick, you are fine without any issues.

It would help if you provided the actual quote or a link.

Freedom of Devon & Cornwall Rover - 3 in 7 Days | National Rail

Special offer: Freedom of Devon & Cornwall Rover - 3 in 7 Days. The portal into UK rail travel, including information on ticket purchase and promotions, train times and delays, and more.

www.nationalrail.co.uk

Under 'Validity' it states 'Valid in both directions' 'No'

 

[Jan Mayen]

Edit: I now see what you mean!

 

[Chris Butler]

I guess the 'No' was intended to be a kind of 'Not applicable'. It's a meaningless question/criterion for Rovers/Rangers.

 

[crucible72]

Thanks for the replies guys.
I was worried I might have to buy the more expensive 8 in 15 day one to avoid
this issue, but if it's just a mistake, then hopefully I'll be fine.

 

[The exile]

I guess the 'No' was intended to be a kind of 'Not applicable'. It's a meaningless question/criterion for Rovers/Rangers.

Where it comes in is with the “Round Robin” tickets, some of which are/were for a circular journey in one direction, albeit with as many breaks as you like, whereas others are effectively rovers.

 

[realemil]

Where it comes in is with the “Round Robin” tickets, some of which are/were for a circular journey in one direction

Yes indeed, this applies to rovers such as the highland rover, where you're supposed to go in a circle.

 

[trei2k]

Yes indeed, this applies to rovers such as the highland rover, where you're supposed to go in a circle.

Does this really apply to the Highland Rover? I was always under the impression you could use any of the route within the validity period. However, I would have thought it would have applied to the 'Scottish Grand tour'? http://www.railrover.org/pages/scottish-grand-tour.html - which is specifically for circular trips.

 

[Chris Butler]

Yes indeed, this applies to rovers such as the highland rover, where you're supposed to go in a circle.

As tre2k said, you're thinking of the Scottish Grand Tour. For that ticket, National Rail's answer to Valid in both directions ? is 'Yes'.

 

[CyrusWuff]

As mentioned above, this appears to be simply an incorrect box tick, you are fine without any issues.

Freedom of Devon & Cornwall Rover - 3 in 7 Days | National Rail

Special offer: Freedom of Devon & Cornwall Rover - 3 in 7 Days. The portal into UK rail travel, including information on ticket purchase and promotions, train times and delays, and more.

www.nationalrail.co.uk

Under 'Validity' it states 'Valid in both directions' 'No'

Summary: The redesigned National Rail website is a heap of junk.

It's technically correct, given Rangers/Rovers/Travelcards can't be issued in the reverse direction (e.g. you can't have a London Zones 1-6 to Brighton Travelcard), but just serves to cause customer confusion in such cases.

You'd think there would be an option to suppress such things from appearing on the public site, but evidently there isn't.

 

[realemil]

Does this really apply to the Highland Rover? I was always under the impression you could use any of the route within the validity period. However, I would have thought it would have applied to the 'Scottish Grand tour'? http://www.railrover.org/pages/scottish-grand-tour.html - which is specifically for circular trips.

As tre2k said, you're thinking of the Scottish Grand Tour. For that ticket, National Rail's answer to Valid in both directions ? is 'Yes'.

Ah yes apologises. The Scottish grand tour is the one I was referring to

 

[Alex365Dash]

It's technically correct, given Rangers/Rovers/Travelcards can't be issued in the reverse direction (e.g. you can't have a London Zones 1-6 to Brighton Travelcard), but just serves to cause customer confusion in such cases.

In that sense, there’s a slight difference is that Travelcards are treated the same way as single/returns in having both an origin and destination pair and therefore that makes at least some level of sense (where “No” is technically correct).

Rangers and Rovers don’t even have an origin/destination pair (unless you’re counting the DaySave as a Ranger which isn’t in the database as a ranger so DOES have an origin/destination pair) so asking whether the ticket can be issued in the reverse direction is simply nonsense because there is no reverse direction.

 

[CyrusWuff]

Rangers and Rovers don’t even have an origin/destination pair (unless you’re counting the DaySave as a Ranger which isn’t in the database as a ranger so DOES have an origin/destination pair) so asking whether the ticket can be issued in the reverse direction is simply nonsense because there is no reverse direction.

For Accountancy purposes, I believe the issuing station is treated as the Origin for a Rover/Ranger, even when issued outside the area of validity. Willing to be corrected on that, however!

Southern DaySave has been bodged in the fares database to enable it to be retailed online. The same applies to various TOC "Friends and Family" type products.

As an aside, Rovers and Rangers are theoretically capable of being retailed for Ticket on Departure, but I don't know of any public web TIS that will do so.

 

[Wallsendmag]

For Accountancy purposes, I believe the issuing station is treated as the Origin for a Rover/Ranger, even when issued outside the area of validity. Willing to be corrected on that, however!

Also for ticket encoding purposes