Routing for Rock Ferry to Manchester Stns

[sansyy]

Hello I was wondering if Rock Ferry to Manchester Stns was also valid via Chester. If it isn’t which Merseyrail station will make a ticket valid via both Liverpool Lime Street and Chester.

Thanks

 

[jfollows]

Hello I was wondering if Rock Ferry to Manchester Stns was also valid via Chester. If it isn’t which Merseyrail station will make a ticket valid via both Liverpool Lime Street and Chester.

Thanks

Yes it is.
Routing points are Hooton and Liverpool Group and both pass the fare check.

As it happens, Hooton is the last station with validity via both routes; Capenhurst is only valid via Chester.
Birkenhead Park is the first station the other way with validity only via Liverpool.
All stations between have validity both ways.

 

[sansyy]

Yes it is.
Routing points are Hooton and Liverpool Group and both pass the fare check.

Perfect thank you

 

[rww100]

As it happens, Hooton is the last station with validity via both routes; Capenhurst is only valid via Chester.

I believe Capenhurst is valid via Liverpool and Newton-le-Willows due to being no more than 3 miles longer than the shortest route according to the distances given by the National Rail Timetable:

Capenhurst to Manchester Piccadilly
via Liverpool and Newton-le-Willows: 45 miles (<=46.5 miles, so valid)
via Liverpool and Warrington Central: 47.25 miles (>46.5 miles, so not valid on distance, or by any other means)
via Chester and Newton-le-Willows: 43.5 miles (shortest route, so valid)
via Chester and Stockport: 48.5 miles (>46.5 miles, so not valid on distance, but valid as a mapped route (map MJ))

Capenhurst to Manchester Oxford Road
via Liverpool and Newton-le-Willows: 44.5 miles (<=46 miles, so valid)
via Liverpool and Warrington Central: 46.5 miles (>46 miles, so not valid on distance, or by any other means)
via Chester and Newton-le-Willows: 43 miles (shortest route, so valid)

Capenhurst to Manchester Victoria
via Liverpool and Newton-le-Willows: 44.25 miles (<=45.75 miles, so valid)
via Chester and Newton-le-Willows: 42.75 miles (shortest route, so valid)

The fares from Capenhurst are set by TfW rather than TPE so have different restrictions and can provide better value depending on the ticket required.

Please correct me if I have missed anything.

 

[jfollows]

Good point, I didn’t think to check this aspect!

 

[sansyy]

I believe Capenhurst is valid via Liverpool and Newton-le-Willows due to being no more than 3 miles longer than the shortest route according to the distances given by the National Rail Timetable:

Capenhurst to Manchester Piccadilly
via Liverpool and Newton-le-Willows: 45 miles (<=46.5 miles, so valid)
via Liverpool and Warrington Central: 47.25 miles (>46.5 miles, so not valid on distance, or by any other means)
via Chester and Newton-le-Willows: 43.5 miles (shortest route, so valid)
via Chester and Stockport: 48.5 miles (>46.5 miles, so not valid on distance, but valid as a mapped route (map MJ))

Capenhurst to Manchester Oxford Road
via Liverpool and Newton-le-Willows: 44.5 miles (<=46 miles, so valid)
via Liverpool and Warrington Central: 46.5 miles (>46 miles, so not valid on distance, or by any other means)
via Chester and Newton-le-Willows: 43 miles (shortest route, so valid)

Capenhurst to Manchester Victoria
via Liverpool and Newton-le-Willows: 44.25 miles (<=45.75 miles, so valid)
via Chester and Newton-le-Willows: 42.75 miles (shortest route, so valid)

The fares from Capenhurst are set by TfW rather than TPE so have different restrictions and can provide better value depending on the ticket required.

Please correct me if I have missed anything.

Thank you