Routes having off peak tckets removed?

[ukrob]

Just tried WAVERTREE TECHPK [[stn]WAV[/stn]] - LIVERPOOL L ST [[stn]LIV[/stn]] off peak day return for January - £1.80 now and just a £2.50 anytime return showing for Jan?

 

[wintonian]

Well the restriction code (Y3) seems to have vanished.

Maybe they haven't been uploaded yet?

 

[ukrob]

Still showing the same in databases, but the next station along the route is showing an off peak ticket at £2.30.

Anyone able to confirm if off peak tickets from some routes have been confirmed?

 

[RJ]

London Midland Only CDRs from London to the West Mids and beyond. Only negligibly cheaper than the SVRs though.

 

[ukrob]

Well I got my answer confirmed today by Merseyrail (not Northern Rail).

Merseyrail set the fare for the route and have removed off-peak tickets, despite not operating trains on the route. So it is roughly a 32% increase in the fare.

 

[John @ home]

Removal of Off-Peak Day Returns, which are not regulated or protected fares, is an increasingly common tactic to increase revenue. It has also happened in the Welsh valleys.

In contrast, Off-Peak Returns are often protected fares.

 

[LexyBoy]

Removal of Off-Peak Day Returns, which are not regulated or protected fares, is an increasingly common tactic to offer customers a simplified fares structure in response to customer demand. It has also happened in the Welsh valleys.

Fixed that for you

 

[northwichcat]

Well I got my answer confirmed today by Merseyrail (not Northern Rail).

Merseyrail set the fare for the route and have removed off-peak tickets, despite not operating trains on the route. So it is roughly a 32% increase in the fare.

If I try Knutsford to almost any destination in Merseyside there isn't an Off Peak Day Return available and it's been that way for a number of years.

Although the strange one is not to a destination in Merseyside:
* Knutsford-Stalybridge only has Anytime Day tickets available for it.
* Knutsford-Huddersfield has Off Peak Day tickets, Anytime Day tickets, Off Peak tickets and Anytime tickets.

 

[lemonic]

If I try Knutsford to almost any destination in Merseyside there isn't an Off Peak Day Return available and it's been that way for a number of years.

Although the strange one is not to a destination in Merseyside:
* Knutsford-Stalybridge only has Anytime Day tickets available for it.
* Knutsford-Huddersfield has Off Peak Day tickets, Anytime Day tickets, Off Peak tickets and Anytime tickets.

Knutsford-Stalybridge is priced by Northern, yet Knutsford-Huddersfield is priced by TPE which may explain the difference in ticket types available.

 

[Wath Yard]

Passengers demand to pay higher fares. That's a novel perspective.

 

[RJ]

Passengers demand to pay higher fares. That's a novel perspective.

People moan that the fares system is too complicated, then complain when the amount of choices available are reduced.

Lost all sympathy for the cause, I do my own homework to find a price I'm happy with and that's that. If other people want to go shooting themselves in the foot, that's their shout!

 

[Wath Yard]

So the solution for simplifying the fare system is to remove the cheapest fare? I can certainly see how that benefits passengers.

 

[northwichcat]

Knutsford-Stalybridge is priced by Northern, yet Knutsford-Huddersfield is priced by TPE which may explain the difference in ticket types available.

It explains why Knutsford-Huddersfield has an Off Peak Day Single (which is a ticket type that Northern set routes don't have) but doesn't explain the lack of an Off-Peak Day Return, which Knutsford-Guide Bridge has.