RHTT Season 2025

[Jacob Porrett]

GB don't have any tripcock fitted locos (for the Aylesbury to Marylebone route) though.


MARK

Ah right I see.

 

[Lewis LJ]

Chiltern's RHTT out of Kings Norton will now be operated with tripcock fitted Freightliner 66's on hire to GBRf - the plan to use 20901/905 has been criticised by Network Rail due to emissions.

figures, ive heard recently that Sheffield has some emissions limit thing and thats why 3S11-15 has to be 66s rather than 56s, also why the Hull/Bridlington run was removed from 3S11-15 in 2021 so RA5 traction was no longer required and they could use 66s. not sure how true this is but it does now start to make sense why 3J51 came along and now covers Hull/Bridlington rather than 3S11-15 which had covered it for years.

 

[47286Dan]

Colas/hire in locos at their RHTT locations

66846 COLO YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
66849 COLO YORK WKS YORK WKS F N

37099 COTS YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
37254 COTS YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
37175 to join them
37175 COTS DERBY RTC 570Z373I25 F YORK WKS N

37405 COFS CRSTRS DS CRSTRS DS D N
37425 HNRL CRSTRS DS CRSTRS DS D N

67023 COTS SWINDNTFR SWINDNTFR F N
67027 COTS SWINDNTFR SWINDNTFR F N

66096 WBAI SWINDNTFR 753S59C724 D * HEREFORD N
66176 WBAI SWINDNTFR 753S59C724 D * HEREFORD N

Dan

 

[Iskra]

Can someone please explain in plain English how close the 37 circuits will come to West or South Yorkshire so I can get out and see them please?

 

[Freightmaster]

Can someone please explain in plain English how close the 37 circuits will come to West or South Yorkshire so I can get out and see them please?

The 3J51 and 3J52 workings both briefly pass through South Yorkshire as they
cover the Selby-Thorpe Marsh-Stainforth-Thorne route in each direction.




MARK

 

[47286Dan]

Afternoon RHTT update

66764 GBEL WELWYN GC 533J311M25 D * PBONYGBRF N
66798 GBEB WELWYN GC 533J311M25 D * PBONYGBRF N

73213 GBED TONB11&12 893W012G25 C * TONB11&12 N
73119 GBED TONB11&12 893W012G25 C * TONB11&12 N

73109 GBED TONB11&12 893W912F25 D * TONB11&12 N
73141 GBED TONB11&12 893W912F25 D * TONB11&12 N

66096 WBAI HEREFORD 763S59CE25 D * SWINDNTFR N
66176 WBAI HEREFORD 763S59CE25 D * SWINDNTFR N

Dan

 

[BillStampy]

Colas/hire in locos at their RHTT locations

66846 COLO YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
66849 COLO YORK WKS YORK WKS F N

37099 COTS YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
37254 COTS YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
37175 to join them
37175 COTS DERBY RTC 570Z373I25 F YORK WKS N

37405 COFS CRSTRS DS CRSTRS DS D N
37425 HNRL CRSTRS DS CRSTRS DS D N

67023 COTS SWINDNTFR SWINDNTFR F N
67027 COTS SWINDNTFR SWINDNTFR F N

66096 WBAI SWINDNTFR 753S59C724 D * HEREFORD N
66176 WBAI SWINDNTFR 753S59C724 D * HEREFORD N

Dan

Still curious as to what the Port Talbot ones will be.. have to keep waiting I suppose!

 

[Iskra]

The 3J51 and 3J52 workings both briefly pass through South Yorkshire as they
cover the Selby-Thorpe Marsh-Stainforth-Thorne route in each direction.




MARK

Thank you!

 

[Lewis LJ]

so if 37175 was meant to join 099 and 254 it didn't happen today, 0Z37 from Derby to Thrall was cancelled and replacement 0Z38 from Derby To Leeds Balm ran very late and went to Doncaster instead, this meant that 0Z39 from Leeds Balm to Thrall was also cancelled.

tomorrow there is 0Z38 from Thrall to Leeds, 0Z39 from Leeds To Thrall and 0Z56 Doncaster To Thrall, the latter being 37175 no doubt.

 

[47286Dan]

This mornings RHTT notes

37099 COTS YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
37254 COTS YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
37419 HNRL YORK WKS YORK WKS F N
37175 COTS DONCWSTYD 230Z562G26 F YORK WKS N

66846 COLO YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
66849 COLO YORK WKS YORK WKS F N

37405 COFS STIRLING 033S93CB26 D * CRSTRS DS N
37425 HNRL STIRLING 033S93CB26 D * CRSTRS DS N

56090 COFS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD N
56094 COFS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD F N
56302 COFS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD D N

97302 QETS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD F N
97304 QETS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD F N

56105 COFS CSLE YD CSLE YD D N
56113 COFS CSLE YD CSLE YD D N

67023 COTS SWINDNTFR 753S31C825 D * LANSDONDL N
67027 COTS SWINDNTFR 753S31C825 D * LANSDONDL N

66096 WBAI SWINDNTFR SWINDNTFR D N
66176 WBAI SWINDNTFR SWINDNTFR D N

57303 GBBS FRWAYD FRWAYD D N
57305 GBBS TAUNTONYD TAUNTONYD D N
57310 GBBS FRWAYD FRWAYD D N

Dan

 

[_toommm_]

I saw the 3S20/21 etc. circuit ran last night. Does anyone know what the traction turned out to be please?

 

[BillStampy]

0Z61 Westbury - Port Talbot Up Sidings

RHTT loop locos, any allocation to it?

 

[47286Dan]

0Z61 Westbury - Port Talbot Up Sidings

RHTT loop locos, any allocation to it?

66848 COLO WESTBURYY 820Z612E26 F PTTALBTUS N

66850 COLO WESTBURYY 820Z612E26 F PTTALBTUS T

Dan

 

[BillStampy]

66848 COLO WESTBURYY 820Z612E26 F PTTALBTUS N

66850 COLO WESTBURYY 820Z612E26 F PTTALBTUS T

Dan

Brilliant, thank you!

 

[Class15]

Chiltern's RHTT out of Kings Norton will now be operated with tripcock fitted Freightliner 66's on hire to GBRf - the plan to use 20901/905 has been criticised by Network Rail due to emissions.

So Network Rail take the contract off Freightliner and give it to GBRf, knowing that GBRf didn’t have any tripcock fitted locos, and then criticise GBRf’s plan to use tripcock fitted locos, and force them to hire from, guess who, Freightliner?!

 

[Pinus contorta]

So Network Rail take the contract off Freightliner and give it to GBRf, knowing that GBRf didn’t have any tripcock fitted locos, and then criticise GBRf’s plan to use tripcock fitted locos, and force them to hire from, guess who, Freightliner?!

Snakes and ladders

 

[Freightmaster]

So Network Rail take the contract off Freightliner and give it to GBRf, knowing that GBRf didn’t have any tripcock fitted locos, and then criticise GBRf’s plan to use tripcock fitted locos, and force them to hire from, guess who, Freightliner?!

Yes, and I've heard that GBRf have insisted that NR pay the (five figure) difference in daily cost
of hiring the 66/5s compared with the class 20s, so I bet NR are fuming!

I saw the 3S20/21 etc. circuit ran last night. Does anyone know what the traction turned out to be please?

66849 & 66846



MARK

 

[Jacob Porrett]

This mornings RHTT notes

37099 COTS YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
37254 COTS YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
37419 HNRL YORK WKS YORK WKS F N
37175 COTS DONCWSTYD 230Z562G26 F YORK WKS N

66846 COLO YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
66849 COLO YORK WKS YORK WKS F N

37405 COFS STIRLING 033S93CB26 D * CRSTRS DS N
37425 HNRL STIRLING 033S93CB26 D * CRSTRS DS N

56090 COFS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD N
56094 COFS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD F N
56302 COFS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD D N

97302 QETS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD F N
97304 QETS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD F N

56105 COFS CSLE YD CSLE YD D N
56113 COFS CSLE YD CSLE YD D N

67023 COTS SWINDNTFR 753S31C825 D * LANSDONDL N
67027 COTS SWINDNTFR 753S31C825 D * LANSDONDL N

66096 WBAI SWINDNTFR SWINDNTFR D N
66176 WBAI SWINDNTFR SWINDNTFR D N

57303 GBBS FRWAYD FRWAYD D N
57305 GBBS TAUNTONYD TAUNTONYD D N
57310 GBBS FRWAYD FRWAYD D N

Dan

97303 is currently at Barrow Hill.

 

[_toommm_]

Yes, and I've heard that GBRf have insisted that NR pay the (five figure) difference in daily cost
of hiring the 66/5s compared with the class 20s, so I bet NR are fuming!





66849 & 66846



MARK

Thank you

 

[47286Dan]

Afternoon update, DB locos to go on hire to GBRf throughout RHTT season

66116 WBAI TOTON TMD TOTONN YD N HIRE
66119 WBAI TOTON TMD TOTON UP N HIRE
66121 WBAI DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY C N
66127 WBAI TOTON TMD TOTONN YD N HIRE
66150 WBAI DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY C N
66158 WBAI DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY C N
66169 WBAI TOTON TMD TOTON UP N HIRE
66198 WBAI DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY C N

Dan

 

[Gwr12345]

Does anyone know when the North Road to Bishop Auckland pacer RHTT starts?

 

[377electrostar]

Hi, does anybody know what will be on 3S73 & 3S76 this year? Will it be the same MPVs as last year?
Many thanks in advance

 

[aftv]

Tonbridge West Yard based 3W90 started today with 73213 and 73119 doing the honours.

 

[47286Dan]

This mornings RHTT

56090 COFS BIDSTON 643S71C726 D * COLHAMLMD N
56094 COFS BIDSTON 643S71C726 D * COLHAMLMD N

66848 COLO PTTALBTUS 793S622A27 D * PTTALBTUS N
66850 COLO PTTALBTUS 793S622A27 D * PTTALBTUS N

66096 WBAI DIDCOT PW 743J44C527 D * SWINDNTFR N
66176 WBAI DIDCOT PW 743J44C527 D * SWINDNTFR N

73119 GBED TONB11&12 893W90C427 D * TONB11&12 N
73128 GBED TONB11&12 890Z732G26 F TONB11&12 N

37405 COFS STIRLING 033S93C627 D * CRSTRS DS N
37425 HNRL STIRLING 033S93C627 D * CRSTRS DS N

Dan

 

[377electrostar]

I'm assuming this is a test of some sort for RHTT, but it seems they'll be using 73s (hopefully) for the headcodes I mentioned yesterday. Looking forward to it

Realtime Trains | 3W01 0900 Tonbridge West Yard Gbrf to Tonbridge West Yard Gbrf | 27/09/2025

Real-time train running information for 3W01 0900 departure from Tonbridge West Yard Gbrf to Tonbridge West Yard Gbrf on 27/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Hi, does anybody know what will be on 3S73 & 3S76 this year? Will it be the same MPVs as last year?
Many thanks in advance

 

[Freightmaster]

Hi, does anybody know what will be on 3S73 & 3S76 this year? Will it be the same MPVs as last year?

For clarification...

3Wxx from Tonbridge West yard: 73s or 69s

3Sxx from Tonbridge Engineers Siding: MPVs


hope this helps,



MARK

 

[47286Dan]

Afternoon RHTT movements

73119 GBED TONB11&12 893W90C427 D * TONB11&12 N
73213 GBED TONB11&12 893W90C427 D * TONB11&12 N

73136 GBED TONB11&12 893W012E27 D * TONB11&12 N
73202 GBED TONB11&12 893W012E27 D * TONB11&12 N

Dan

 

[Jacob Porrett]

The North Wales RHTT started today from Coleham LMD Shrewsbury. 56090/094 did the honours.

 

[Lewis LJ]

This mornings RHTT notes

37099 COTS YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
37254 COTS YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
37419 HNRL YORK WKS YORK WKS F N
37175 COTS DONCWSTYD 230Z562G26 F YORK WKS N

66846 COLO YORK WKS YORK WKS D N
66849 COLO YORK WKS YORK WKS F N

37405 COFS STIRLING 033S93CB26 D * CRSTRS DS N
37425 HNRL STIRLING 033S93CB26 D * CRSTRS DS N

56090 COFS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD N
56094 COFS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD F N
56302 COFS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD D N

97302 QETS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD F N
97304 QETS COLHAMLMD COLHAMLMD F N

56105 COFS CSLE YD CSLE YD D N
56113 COFS CSLE YD CSLE YD D N

67023 COTS SWINDNTFR 753S31C825 D * LANSDONDL N
67027 COTS SWINDNTFR 753S31C825 D * LANSDONDL N

66096 WBAI SWINDNTFR SWINDNTFR D N
66176 WBAI SWINDNTFR SWINDNTFR D N

57303 GBBS FRWAYD FRWAYD D N
57305 GBBS TAUNTONYD TAUNTONYD D N
57310 GBBS FRWAYD FRWAYD D N

Dan

so if 37099, 37175, 37254 and 37419 are all at York, does this mean Colas plan to do a DRS and use a pair of 37s on the 3S20-29 diagram alongside 3J51? (sadly) leaving 66846 and 66849 for 3S11-15

 

[47286Dan]

Afternoon RHTT movements

73109 GBED TONB11&12 893W74C628 D * TONB11&12 N
73128 GBED TONB11&12 893W74C628 D * TONB11&12 N
69001 GBRG TONB11&12 893W74C628 D * TONB11&12 N
73212 GBED TONB11&12 893W74C628 D * TONB11&12 N

73213 GBED TONB11&12 893W90CA28 D * TONB11&12 N
73119 GBED TONB11&12 893W90CA28 D * TONB11&12 N

73202 GBED TONBGEWYD 893W012E28 D * TONB11&12 N
73136 GBED TONBGEWYD 893W012E28 D * TONB11&12 N

Dan

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Afternoon RHTT movements

73109 GBED TONB11&12 893W74C628 D * TONB11&12 N
73128 GBED TONB11&12 893W74C628 D * TONB11&12 N
69001 GBRG TONB11&12 893W74C628 D * TONB11&12 N
73212 GBED TONB11&12 893W74C628 D * TONB11&12 N

Confirmed as a TOPS input error.

Is Infact only these on 3W74

73109 GBED TONB11&12 893W74C628 D * TONB11&12 N
73141 GBED TONB11&12 893W74C628 D * TONB11&12 N

Dan