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Review permanent speed restrictions

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Ken H

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Why does it have a 60 restriction. Its laid out for high speeds. Would it do any harm to the modern track if the speed was 70, even if just for DMUs. One suspects the restriction was made when it was Cl47 and Mk 1's and jointed track on wood sleepers, and no-one has thought again.
and also I'd make some of the stations request stops. Do stops like Garsdale and Ribblehead really generate custom for every train?
I am sure there are others where a bit more speed would benefit passengers.

and also look at turnouts. When they come for renewal, look to see if they can be improved.
 
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hexagon789

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Why does it have a 60 restriction. Its laid out for high speeds. Would it do any harm to the modern track if the speed was 70, even if just for DMUs. One suspects the restriction was made when it was Cl47 and Mk 1's and jointed track on wood sleepers, and no-one has thought again.
and also I'd make some of the stations request stops. Do stops like Garsdale and Ribblehead really generate custom for every train?
I am sure there are others where a bit more speed would benefit passengers.

and also look at turnouts. When they come for renewal, look to see if they can be improved.

I believe that in steam days it was up to 80 in places. I was told that BR reduced it to 60 at some point to save on maintenance costs.

As for raising the current linespeed, I've no idea what would be needed to do so, it may presently be 60 because that is the maximum the infrastructure can comfortably support or it may be possible to raise speeds with little work.
 

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A request stop saves very little time - 30-60 seconds - and IME (random trips, middle of the day rather than very early/late) it's rare to have a stop that no-one boards or alights at, certainly Ribblehead and Garsdale get used!
To make a serious difference, the line needs a couple of semi-fast - but that's been well discussed on here.
As for turnouts, on the S and C it's only one at Carlisle (Petteril Bridge?) that needs doing.
 

Whistler40145

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Would it be possible in certain locations for the line speed be increased from 60 to 75 mph or as per other lines where there's a DMU max speed and another for loco hauled services.
 

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It has been looked at plenty of times, doesn't release enough bang for the buck.
 
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