Reserved seat in non platformed carriage

[Lewisham2221]

What if, hypothetically, the platformed coaches are fully reserved - wouldn't that mean anyone else wishing to travel from that station wouldn't be able to buy an Advance and would be forced into buying a more expensive walk-up ticket, despite there being plenty of available seats in the other end of the train? And then still have to walk through the train to find an unreserved seat anyway? Or are we proposing a system where you can reserve a seat, but nobody gets told where that seat is until 5 minutes before the train departs the origin station, so that all seats can be allocated in the most optimal way based on the rolling stock (orientation etc) that is guaranteed to operate the service?

 

[Krokodil]

I get that but you just walk through into Standard Premium before alighting.

Always assuming that you're physically capable of walking down narrow aisles with heavy suitcases. The system has to cater for the lowest common denominator.

Pet peeve of mine that is, perfectly clear auto-announcements followed by a manual announcement by someone who sounds like they have their head in a goldfish bowl.

I was on a Merseyrail service the other day. The auto announcer very clearly warned passengers that the train would not be calling at Capenhurst. Then the guard came on and said (a little less clearly) that it would indeed be stopping.

It did.

 

[Starmill]

What if, hypothetically, the platformed coaches are fully reserved - wouldn't that mean anyone else wishing to travel from that station wouldn't be able to buy an Advance and would be forced into buying a more expensive walk-up ticket, despite there being plenty of available seats in the other end of the train? And then still have to walk through the train to find an unreserved seat anyway? Or are we proposing a system where you can reserve a seat, but nobody gets told where that seat is until 5 minutes before the train departs the origin station, so that all seats can be allocated in the most optimal way based on the rolling stock (orientation etc) that is guaranteed to operate the service?

No? I don't see why either of those would need to happen.

 

[norbitonflyer]

Tangentially, that's not entirely correct. The on-station announcements always refer to 'should travel in' not 'should alight from'.
It's something that frustrate me; as a passenger in a TPE 5-car where First is the 5th car leaving Liverpool I hear the same; passengers for x y & z should travel in the first four coaches, so logically you can't travel in the First car with a First ticket. Same on EMR; passengers for Long Eaton are told by station announcement to travel in the first four coaches (though, in the last case, there are always on-board announcements to move forward, and only the DMF might be off the platform, depending on orientation)

Such announcements fail to make the distinction between a train which is too short for the platform, and a train which will divide en route. In tghe former case, a passenger may choose to travel in any part of the train, but should only alight from the carriages in the platform. In the latter case, it is much more important that the passenger travel in the right part of the train!

 

[Swaine]

On 2 x Class 185 TPE services that serve short platforms, they only reserve seats in one unit (coaches A/B/C) and this is always the leading unit (which is the one that is always platformed). This is done by swapping the coach letter window stickers around when it reverses. You can't fail with analogue technology!

 

[Starmill]

Such announcements fail to make the distinction between a train which is too short for the platform, and a train which will divide en route. In tghe former case, a passenger may choose to travel in any part of the train, but should only alight from the carriages in the platform. In the latter case, it is much more important that the passenger travel in the right part of the train!

There's usually a lot more opportunity to move to the correct part of the train at a station where the split is done than there is to move forward at a station with a short platform.