• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Reopening the Bangor-Afonwen line?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Jones

Member
Joined
7 Feb 2014
Messages
238
Most of the trackbed is still there, except for where houses and bike paths that have been built....

But,

If the line was still open there would be a route around North Wales and it would genuinely help the local transport links. The Cambrian is quaint, but to actually go anywhere you have to drive to Bangor. :|

Plus, think of the tourist opportunities! :D

How much for a 30 mile line with passing loops?
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

mountaineer

New Member
Joined
10 Oct 2013
Messages
4
Location
saxmundham
Any chance of restoring this line was ruined when they destroyed the infrastructure north of Port Dinorwic, and latterly laid the narrow gauge on the standard south of Caernarvon ( place names spelt as they were when I was a boy!!)
 

Xenophon PCDGS

Veteran Member
Joined
17 Apr 2011
Messages
35,438
Location
A typical commuter-belt part of north-west England
Most of the trackbed is still there, except for where houses and bike paths that have been built....But...

If the line was still open there would be a route around North Wales and it would genuinely help the local transport links. The Cambrian is quaint, but to actually go anywhere you have to drive to Bangor. :|

Plus, think of the tourist opportunities! :D

I am really glad that I am not one of the owner of a house that you so describe above..<(

I thought the Welsh Highland Railway and the Ffestiniog Railway provided more than enough tourist potential in that part of North Wales.

Incidentally, I am of an age when I was able to travel from Manchester Exchange station to Afon Wen in the late 1950's.
 
Last edited:

Greenback

Emeritus Moderator
Joined
9 Aug 2009
Messages
15,268
Location
Llanelli
I don't think there's any doubt that had the line remained open it would today be a very useful link in the transport infrastructure of the area. Bangor is a regional centre, and is the natural place for resident sof the northern Cambrian Coast line to go to for education, healthcare and many other things.

The big problem is the cost and practicality of reopeing the line, especially as it's now been so long since it was removed. The successful reopenings in south Wales have occurred where the track was retained for freight, not ripped up completely and parts of the formation used for other things. Although the obstacles are not insurmountable, I can't see any real possibility of reopening this link for the foreseeable due to a lack of money.
 

ianhr

Member
Joined
17 Sep 2013
Messages
534
I would have thought re-opening Bangor-Carnafon might be a more realistic start. There are fewer obstructions on this short stretch, and it would reconnect a major centre of population and tourist destination with the national network. It also provides a link between the N Wales coast line and the WHR.
 

Jones

Member
Joined
7 Feb 2014
Messages
238
I would have thought re-opening Bangor-Carnafon might be a more realistic start. There are fewer obstructions on this short stretch, and it would reconnect a major centre of population and tourist destination with the national network. It also provides a link between the N Wales coast line and the WHR.

I actually think that stretch is possibly the hardest part to relay. The route has been virtually eradicated by development.
 

Greenback

Emeritus Moderator
Joined
9 Aug 2009
Messages
15,268
Location
Llanelli
I would assume that the business case would be stronger for a reopening to Caernarfon compared to all the way to Afon Wen. But I could be wrong!

Either way, I doubt either is on the cards at the moment.
 

Jones

Member
Joined
7 Feb 2014
Messages
238
True :D

I would love to see it reopen.

Round North Wales rail tour anyone?:)
 

gazthomas

Established Member
Joined
5 Jun 2011
Messages
3,466
Location
Llandudno
It's almost impossible in high density areas so what hope for north west Wales. At least the tarmac is good in Wales!
 

Bright Boy

Member
Joined
3 Mar 2014
Messages
217
Location
Sale
I am all for re-opening old lines, but in this case I think it would be nigh impossible.

Bangor (from Menai Bridge) to Caernarvon would be a good choice for a rail re-opening as Carnarvon is a very busy town, with a lot of tourist business, and further down the Llyn peninsula is a popular seaside area, although not too busy, probably because of the lack of railway infrastructure in the past.

However, just south of Menai Bridge the trackbed has been built upon by roads, and at Caernarvon it has been used by the Morrison's supermarket, so if you build a line to Caernarvon it would have to be mostly on a new alignment.

Through Carnarvon would be practically impossible, all the railway infrastructure through the town has been totally re-built until you get to where the current Welsh Highland Railway line is using the trackbed at the south end of the town.

From Caernarvon down to Afon Wen the trackbed is still in situ and used by the aforementioned WHR, as far as Dinas Jct, after this the trackbed is still in place although a few properties have encroached upon it, so it may be possible to re-open this stretch of the former Nantlle Railway/Caernarvonshire Railway, running alongside the WHR for a while, but the population is not high and business, tourist or otherwise, is little, so the only demand for this part of the line would be to link up with the Welsh coast line as a through route, but is there enough demand from that line for such a project?

Such a line would have to use a new alignment for stretches from Menai Bridge to Caernarvon and have to go around Caernarvon instead of through it, losing much of the traffic that a station in the town would generate, so in this case I think it would be a very nice pipe dream, Unfortunately
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top