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Remote controlled drones for BTP

SargeNpton

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Now this looks like a good use of technology. Only came across this story a couple of days ago...

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.btp.police.uk/news/btp/news/england/btp-expands-drone-capability-with-launch-of-seventh-remote-site/[/URL]

British Transport Police (BTP) has completed the first phase of its pioneering ‘Drone in a Box’ (DIAB) project with seven operational sites now live, further enhancing its ability to respond to trespass and emergency incidents.
The project has been delivered through BTP's innovative Drones Development Programme, which is focused on integrating Beyond Visual Line of Sight (BVLOS) drone technology into the force's wider operational capabilities. The technology enables drones to be launched and piloted remotely from a London-based control room, providing officers and Network Rail staff on the ground with live aerial intelligence within seconds.
 
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OK, who is up for starting a book to guess as to how long it will be before a blocked line is caused by a drone falling onto the lines / overheads.... ;)
 

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I'm more interested in whether they will be fitting the drones with a big grippy hooky thing so that having located the trespassers, they can effect immediate (and somewhat comical) resolution of the situation :)
 

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I saw those at a show a couple of years ago. Had quite a long chat with the BTP officer that was looking after the stand. They had some footage playing from a drone.

Seems a very good, and safer, way to investigate reports in an area and search larger sections
 

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I saw those at a show a couple of years ago. Had quite a long chat with the BTP officer that was looking after the stand. They had some footage playing from a drone.

Seems a very good, and safer, way to investigate reports in an area and search larger sections
Yes, especially at night, getting an infrared camera up in the air that can get a view from every angle and can scan multiple miles of lineside in less than an hour will be a big improvement. Especially for things like getting trains moving after self-evacuations.
 

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Ok, looking at this this may be a different thing than I was thinking of.

Also, aren't all drones remote controlled?

The stuff I saw was more "locally remote controlled" if that's the right term
 

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This became standard in Finland several years ago. The police can fly a portable drone from a safe location when searching the area for trespassers. No need to interrupt the traffic then - they just place a temporary speed restriction.
 

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I wonder how far away (if not already) we are from having drones semi-permanently patrolling problematic hotspots - with some kind of AI recognition to flag to a control room if something is spotted?

Would be interesting whether the footage captured is later fed into any Network Rail systems for analysis to identify infrastructure issues, even if not in realtime - vegetation, damage etc.
 

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I wonder how far away (if not already) we are from having drones semi-permanently patrolling problematic hotspots - with some kind of AI recognition to flag to a control room if something is spotted.
Would be interesting whether the footage captured is later fed into any Network Rail systems for analysis to identify infrastructure issues, even if not in realtime - vegetation, damage etc.
NR already use drones for inspections, although I expect there's different setups for the BTP drones focusing on people and the NR ones focusing on structures and equipment.
 

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Much cheaper than a helicopter!

And more available. NPAS is a massive con that police forces are contractually locked into- plenty have tried to leave since the widespread adoption of drones without success. Limited hours, long transit times for many forces, huge cost, patchy availability even during service hours.
 

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Ok, looking at this this may be a different thing than I was thinking of.

Also, aren't all drones remote controlled?

The stuff I saw was more "locally remote controlled" if that's the right term
I think it's slightly sloppy wording, but the intention may have been to highlight the 'beyond line of sight' aspect of their use.

Us mere mortals with Dji Minis have to keep the drone in direct visual line of sight with our eyes (specs are fine, but not cameras etc).

If the police couldn't have them go beyond direct line of sight, they'd be far less effective as they'd have to send a response car out, removing the main benefit of this tech which is basically to get eyes on a situation and start collecting video evidence ASAP.
 

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One early evening a few weeks ago, I was returning from Piccadilly on the Crewe via Stockport stopper. We made our scheduled call on time at Levenshulme on the up slow, but then remained at the platform. After a few minutes the guard informed us that all train movements had been stopped because of reports of trespassers ahead and that 'the police drone' was on the scene trying to locate them.

After about 10-15 minutes, he reported that they had been located hiding and had been apprehended and one down train (which was an XC Voyager held at Heaton Chapel) would be passing shortly at slow speed to ensure the line was clear. Shortly thereafter things began to move again and from memory we were around 25 late into Stockport.

It wasn't until some time later that the news about the BTP drones in the Manchester area hit the local press. I suspect this may have been one of the first operations to feature these drones in anger and had it not been available I suspect the delay would have been much longer.

Report from the BBC below

Why drones are flying over Manchester railways​

A drone hovering above an open docking box, with the Manchester skyline in the background.
IMAGE SOURCE,BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE
Image caption, The drones can be launched remotely and flown by pilots based in London
Police drones are being launched remotely over railway lines in Manchester as part of a scheme aimed at finding trespassers and reducing delays.

The aircraft are kept in weatherproof boxes at sites beside the railway and can be launched remotely by pilots based in London when an incident is reported.

Since the British Transport Police (BTP) launched its first site in Leeds in April 2025, four sites have been introduced across south London, as well as sites in Leicester and Manchester.

The BTP said Manchester was chosen because it is a known hotspot for trespass and disruption.

A pilot does not need to be on or near the site before the drone can take off, and the drone can also be used proactively - to patrol areas where intelligence suggests trespassing may be taking place.

BTP hopes to establish further sites in the North West as it expands the programme, although no additional locations have been announced so far.
Lucy D'Orsi standing on a rooftop, with two drone boxes and the Manchester skyline in the background

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BTP Chief Constable Lucy D'Orsi said she hoped the number of operational drone sites would double by the end of the year

Chief Constable Lucy D'Orsi said the average response time for the system since April had been three minutes and 28 seconds.

"The fundamental difference is that we wouldn't be able to get officers there that quick," she said.

BTP said that between 1 April and 25 July the system conducted 550 flights across Britain, with drones typically being the first resource on scene in 68% of operational incidents.

The force claimed drone deployments had helped to prevent an estimated 7,911 minutes of delays during the same period.

How does the system work?​

The Manchester site has two weatherproof boxes which house and charge the drones when they are not in use.

Simon Bachelor, BTP's head of drones programme, said that when a pilot wants to use one, the box opens remotely and the aircraft takes off, before the box closes again.
"It's completely self-contained and allows us to not need officers or drone pilots near the location," he said.

BTP said having two boxes allowed it to provide near-continuous coverage while allowing for battery depletion and recharging.

Bachelor likened the system to "having a resource permanently on scene".
Simon Bachelor, speaking outdoors on a rooftop.

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Simon Bachelor, BTP's head of drones programme, said the technology can help officers assess incidents more quickly

He said one of its main benefits was being able to establish quickly whether there was someone on the railway track.

Officers and railway staff may otherwise have to travel to the area and embark on a physical search, during which time trains might have to be delayed or services suspended.

"If we can arrive at that point far more quickly, then we cause less disruption and the travelling public can continue on their journeys without those delays - or with a reduced amount of delay," said Bachelor.

A grey four-rotor drone sitting inside an open docking and charging box.

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The drones are housed and charged inside weatherproof boxes beside the railway

The drones can also provide aerial support during other incidents, including lineside fires, if there are incidents within the aircraft's operating area.

BTP said they had also been used to help locate vulnerable people.

D'Orsi said there were currently seven operational sites across Britain and that her ambition was to double that number by the end of the year, adding she anticipated more being introduced in the North West at a later stage

I believe the ones in Manchester are based at the Manchester ROC at Ashburys.


 
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70014IronDuke

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Trespass is one aspect - but what about security and anti-cable theft? Sounds awfully useful with an infra-red camera fitted.
 

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This has been in development for some time; AIUI it has been a tortuous process getting the right permissions and licences. However now it’s up and buzzing, it should make a real difference in bringing some major incidents to a more rapid conclusion.
 

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Ok, looking at this this may be a different thing than I was thinking of.

Also, aren't all drones remote controlled?

The stuff I saw was more "locally remote controlled" if that's the right term
Some drones have had pre-programmed flight paths that were not changeable during flight including a pre-programmed landing.
Some drones had editable flights. Some drones had remote control of sensors/cameras from which the on board Flight control computer would control the required flight path to enable the viewer to see what they wanted.
 

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The BTP used to like to practice with the drone in the disused CMD siding at Castleton until someone decided to plonk a housing estate on it. Their appearance at the main gate used to cause unease in the signalbox about the possibility of unreported trespassers :lol:
 

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