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"Restore Britain" is Lowe's new party. I've seen clips of a video he released and it sends a rather chilling messsge. Together with Advance UK, along with the dregs of UKIP, I wonder if we'll see the Refoam vote fractured.
Reform apparently peaked about 6 months ago according to the polling companies and their share has been declining. Their trend line is now dropping about 2% per month.
Not really clear where the lost votes are going though from polling predictions, seems to be slight increases for Greens, Conservatives, and to lesser extent LibDem and Labour. And regionally votes seem to be increasing for Plaid Cymru and SNP too.
My guess is starting to understand that Reform is all speak and no policies, and not hard to find news about Reform led councils lurching into problems.
I can. Because it’s not just the policies, but the idea that they’re a break from the past.
Reform, for all its ghastliness, is a constitutional party. Lowe’s party, and some of the others, are more akin to the revolutionary leftist parties which, if they participate in elections, do so with intent to destroy the system rather than align to it.
I can. Because it’s not just the policies, but the idea that they’re a break from the past.
Reform, for all its ghastliness, is a constitutional party. Lowe’s party, and some of the others, are more akin to the revolutionary leftist parties which, if they participate in elections, do so with intent to destroy the system rather than align to it.
A constitution that appears happy to accept defecting MPs without a by-election, something that a certain N Farage has previously called dishonourable and disgraceful.
A constitution that appears happy to accept defecting MPs without a by-election, something that a certain N Farage has previously called dishonourable and disgraceful.
A constitution that appears happy to accept defecting MPs without a by-election, something that a certain N Farage has previously called dishonourable and disgraceful.
A constitution that treats MPs as individuals, and therefore as having being elected personally, not solely as members of a party.
Given an either/or choice between that or systems that define MPs in terms of their party, I prefer the status quo despite its failure to recognise the importance of party in getting MPs their vote.
As for Farage, he’s behaving as he always has - taking whatever position most suits his immediate short term advantage.
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Yes, it’s called parliamentary democracy. The PM is the person who can get the votes of the House of Commons.
The Tories showed what happens when you allow the party membership too much control over who can be leader, and saddled themselves with at least two completely unsuitable leaders.
And he also decided to offend a female news reporter...
13:07 Anna Gross from the Financial Times asked a two-part question at the press conference: about whether Reform UK would create an Ice-style migrant deportation unit, and about all five of the people on the platform having been educated at private schools. Nigel Farage responded. He said sarcastically that he “loved” the FT; the day after the Mandelson story broke, its front page carried a story about a Reform councillor in Kent, he said. He said there was not point addressing Gross’s question. “Just write some silly story,” he told Gross.
Farage hates scrutiny and really can't cope with it other than by ignoring the question. I suppose it helps when most questions you're asked come from the in-house propaganda station that he part owns
The Tories showed what happens when you allow the party membership too much control over who can be leader, and saddled themselves with at least two completely unsuitable leaders.
Indeed, though I ducked that one because a) there was only one unsuitable leader and b) his leadership raised questions about the definition of "membership".
Seems to have become the dumping ground for all the most undesirable elements of the Tory party.
As I said in the other thread, I wonder if the Tories detoxifying will help them (the Tories)? I don't want to see a Tory win (we want a left-wing party winning, to be quite frank) but it would be a lot less bad than a Reform win, particularly if most of the worst elements have gone. Zahawi for example - very much associated with all that was bad about the Boris government.
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It made me smile that Farage has described the Tories as an ‘old fuddy-duddy’ party. Not sure the kids around me will have come across anyone younger than their grandparents using that term.
As someone who was first able to vote in a GE in 1992, I've always thought of "fuddy-duddy" as mainstream.
In any case, all the Tories that are jumping ship are probably the most fuddy-duddy of the lot. Braverman? A living anachronism, who reached her sell-by date approximately 15 years before she was even born.
As are Reform in general. An outdated, backwards party with outdated, backwards, British Empire-era policies and attitudes.
I think for those of us who think a Reform Government would be utterly disastrous for the country, this "splitting" is a good thing and should continue.
It's long been the case that under first past the post it's harder to elect a left wing Government than a right wing one because there are three main left wing parties (Labour, LD and Green) and there was only one main right wing party (Tories). But now there are three of each. This creates a much more balanced vote.
It's long been the case that under first past the post it's harder to elect a left wing Government than a right wing one because there are three main left wing parties (Labour, LD and Green) and there was only one main right wing party (Tories). But now there are three of each. This creates a much more balanced vote.
Are there? Are you counting the Lib Dems as right-wing, and discounting this new and hopefully major splinter group? Or are you counting this new Restore split as a party, and ignoring the People's Popular Front of Jeremy, which makes four on the left? (Personally I'd count neither.)
I'm just hoping that enough Conservative-leaning people get repulsed enough by Reform to vote Tory and split the vote that way. But then of course the Greens are intent on splitting the left vote as much as possible...
Are there? Are you counting the Lib Dems as right-wing, and discounting this new and hopefully major splinter group? Or are you counting this new Restore split as a party, and ignoring the People's Popular Front of Jeremy, which makes four on the left? (Personally I'd count neither.)
Left: Labour, LD, Green
Right: Tory, Reform, this new thing
Whether you'd also add Corbyn to the Left and thus make it 4-3 is a bit moot, the key is that it isn't 1:many. But I don't see that Corbyn thing gaining any traction, whereas I think we will see a bigger right wing split into Tory-right of Tory and a bit racist-downright racist. I suppose we did have the National Front before, but I think that's gone?
I also wonder if, if the Right is fractured, we might actually see a move towards proportional representation now it'd benefit both sides?
Away from Monty Python, Hitler’s path to power was smoothed by the fact that the two main leftist blocks saw each other as more of a “threat” than they did the Nazis.
Advance UK (formerly the Integrity Party) is a far-right political party in the United Kingdom led by Ben Habib, a former Deputy Leader of Reform UK. The party was launched in its current form in 2025, following Habib's departure from Reform UK in November 2024 due to internal disagreements and a falling-out with Nigel Farage and Zia Yusuf.
And then of course there is UKIP (yes, it still exists), with it new logo and slogan "The New Right". The logo looking very much like the iron cross/Maltese cross favoured by the Nazis, pierced by what appears to be the Spear of Destiny. As per this picture.
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