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This is a few days old but I don't think it's been mentioned on here.

A football referee stopped a match in its tracks – to watch a steam train go past.

Nostalgic Kieron Lee, aged 46, blew time on the U15 Sunday league clash to admire the railway locomotive as it passed by.

Players and spectators were taken aback by the unexpected pause, but rushed to the sidelines to see the 13-carriage steam train.
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Hope he doesn't referee at Ramsbottom United or Kidderminster Harriers. Otherwise the game would never finish.
 

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Hope he doesn't referee at Ramsbottom United or Kidderminster Harriers. Otherwise the game would never finish.
Indeed, but this is the Penistone line, where loco hauled trains are very rare.

I believe they were banned for a while, and although they are allowed now (perhaps with weight restrictions?), obtaining a viable path might be difficult.
 

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So in the match report, did it say "Train stopped play"?

(I'll get my coat)
 

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Indeed, but this is the Penistone line, where loco hauled trains are very rare.

I believe they were banned for a while, and although they are allowed now (perhaps with weight restrictions?), obtaining a viable path might be difficult.

Work to Longroyd Bridge viaduct (the first major structure south of Springwood Junction near Huddersfield) a few years ago lifted the ban on loco hauled. However, the same viaduct is subject to a severe speed restriction (10mph IIRC) for locos.
 

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Theres a small village cricket ground in Cherwell Valley where I umpired last year.
During the summer there is a train that passes along the back of the ground and play has to be stopped every time the train passes as it goes right behind the bowlers arm.
I had great fun with my camera every time the train passed even though it did mean holding the play up a bit longer than was strictly necessary! :D
 

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Picky point, but it's actually Paddock Viaduct.

It has been referred to by several names, there's even a painting on the wall of the Head of Steam that erroneously refers to it as Lockwood viaduct (which as you will know, is the next one along). I've always known it as Longroyd Bridge viaduct, which isn't a needless repetition, but named after the area of town it passes over (Paddock 'proper' being more around the area where the Standedge line passes under Church Street).

If it is in fact referred to as Paddock Viaduct in official railway documentation, then I bow to your superior knowledge!
 

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Bolton Wanderers old ground Burnden Park had a line running right behind it where you could get some good views of the steam trains, also I remember seeing steam trains from both Highbury (North bank) and Elland Road.
 

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It has been referred to by several names, there's even a painting on the wall of the Head of Steam that erroneously refers to it as Lockwood viaduct (which as you will know, is the next one along). I've always known it as Longroyd Bridge viaduct, which isn't a needless repetition, but named after the area of town it passes over (Paddock 'proper' being more around the area where the Standedge line passes under Church Street).

If it is in fact referred to as Paddock Viaduct in official railway documentation, then I bow to your superior knowledge!
Not wishing to be over pedantic, but it doesn't actually pass over Longroyd Bridge. One end is Paddock Foot, the other is Thornton Lodge. Longroyd Bridge is where the A62 passes over the canal and river. It's a very fine distinction though so I really am being very picky.

Paddock is a long narrow area with no real "village centre". The part you refer to is probably the closest to one, as you've no doubt observed on Google Earth. My grandma was actually brought up in a house on Church Street just above the railway bridge you refer to. I'm a Colne Valley-ite so the area is very familiar to me, but my children all grew up where you are in Batley and Birstall - and they're very proud of their Spen Valley heritage!

Anyway, off topic so apologies all round.
 

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I pay for my football season ticket to watch my favourate team play not to watch steam trains. If people wanted to see trains then they would go to Crewe station. The ref should get his priorities right.
 

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I pay for my football season ticket to watch my favourate team play not to watch steam trains. If people wanted to see trains then they would go to Crewe station. The ref should get his priorities right.

This was a u-15 Sunday league match, hardly the FA Cup Final. And by the sound of the report most of those at the match enjoyed seeing it!
 

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I pay for my football season ticket to watch my favourate team play not to watch steam trains. If people wanted to see trains then they would go to Crewe station. The ref should get his priorities right.

I wonder how many of the handful of spectators, who were watching their children play in the under 15 league thought about asking for their money back?

I'll bet their ticket price was somewhere south of £0.01p
 

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Shifnal cricket ground is immediately adjacent the WVH-SHR line which is on an embankment. There are persistent rumors that at least one local umpire has difficulty making decisions if a train (especially freight) is passing at the wrong time
 

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The Vale of Rhiedol Railway runs past the Aberystwyth CC ground.

A few years ago, I was scoring at a match there when a train went past .... the match stopped whilst we watched the train!
 

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Theres a small village cricket ground in Cherwell Valley where I umpired last year.
During the summer there is a train that passes along the back of the ground and play has to be stopped every time the train passes as it goes right behind the bowlers arm.
I had great fun with my camera every time the train passed even though it did mean holding the play up a bit longer than was strictly necessary! :D

Perhaps, then, you can explain to me something which has baffled me for several decades...

In one of the "Thomas the Tank Engine" stories Thomas stops at a signal next to a cricket ground, and one of the cricketers asks the driver to draw up closer to the signal because Thomas's last few trucks are behind the bowler's arm.

My parents were unable to explain to me what the significance of this bizarre objection was, and I do not understand it any better today. After all, half of the entire universe is behind the bowler's arm; why is it such a calamity if that portion of it which is visible includes a train?
 

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Perhaps, then, you can explain to me something which has baffled me for several decades...

In one of the "Thomas the Tank Engine" stories Thomas stops at a signal next to a cricket ground, and one of the cricketers asks the driver to draw up closer to the signal because Thomas's last few trucks are behind the bowler's arm.

My parents were unable to explain to me what the significance of this bizarre objection was, and I do not understand it any better today. After all, half of the entire universe is behind the bowler's arm; why is it such a calamity if that portion of it which is visible includes a train?

Usually there is a sight screen behind the bowlers arm, which to some batsman makes the ball easier to see when it is delivered. Red on white is easier to see than red on black for example
 

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Perhaps, then, you can explain to me something which has baffled me for several decades...

In one of the "Thomas the Tank Engine" stories Thomas stops at a signal next to a cricket ground, and one of the cricketers asks the driver to draw up closer to the signal because Thomas's last few trucks are behind the bowler's arm.

My parents were unable to explain to me what the significance of this bizarre objection was, and I do not understand it any better today. After all, half of the entire universe is behind the bowler's arm; why is it such a calamity if that portion of it which is visible includes a train?

As HLE says their is often a white sightscreen behind the bowler which allows the batsman to pick up the ball easily.
If you're having a small red object thrown at you from less then 22 yards away then being able to see it is important...
 

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Usually there is a sight screen behind the bowlers arm, which to some batsman makes the ball easier to see when it is delivered. Red on white is easier to see than red on black for example
To expand on that, any uniform colour is better than a non-uniform or, worse still, changing background. It's to do with how the brain detects motion. You can't consciously 'see' a ball heading towards you at 100mph but your brain is able to process the motion and work out the trajectory as long as it doesn't have to simultaneously process a changing background at the same time.
 

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Shifnal cricket ground is immediately adjacent the WVH-SHR line which is on an embankment. There are persistent rumors that at least one local umpire has difficulty making decisions if a train (especially freight) is passing at the wrong time

Linlithgow CC in Scotland is right next to Linlithgow Station, and when I've been there the umpire often stops play (just for a few moments) for slow freight trains and HSTs, less commonly for the more frequent 170s and 158s. The noise made and the motion of the train if the batsman is facing the line are cited as reasons for this.

Of course, it's easier to stop cricket for a few moments than football.
 

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You can see from the photo above why it was called the Railway End. During the days of steam locomotives, smoke from the trains would often drift across the ground. Visiting teams sometimes suggested that the home side deliberately arranged for a train to pass by when they were attacking the the Railway End as their view of the goal was impeded.

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/old-grounds-and-stands/st-andrews-birmingham/index.html

One of many stories about the Railway End at Birmingham City's St Andrews. Other possible myths were that the majority of drivers who passed the ground were rival fans and would deliberately cover the home fans as they drove by!
 

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Thanks to those who replied to my question, though it still does not make sense to me... surely if there is a sight screen behind the bowler's arm then that itself eliminates any problems?

However, I am a little uncomfortable about carrying on beyond this point as the rail connection is somewhat tenuous, so I'll leave it there and file it under "weird sport stuff". :)
 
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