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adamp
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Very nice shot of the 180 Shauna, I also like your night shots of the 37s at Victoria 
They're all ok shots, they taken with your Fuji?
1 - Looks a bit flat, perhaps you could try increasing the contrast a bit.
2/3 - Maybe include more of the surroundings next time?
4 - A bit over exposed, maybe darken it and/or up the contrast. Maybe go B&W?
1 - Looks a bit flat, perhaps you could try increasing the contrast a bit.
2/3 - Maybe include more of the surroundings next time?
4 - A bit over exposed, maybe darken it and/or up the contrast. Maybe go B&W?
Cheers for the feedback.
Yes, they taken with the Fuji.
None of them have been processed with Photoshop or anything.
I'm still not completely understanding how to use the camera properly. But I've been using P and S modes alot recently. Any advice good settings to use on an average day of railway phottage?
Main problem I've found is that my shots often blur. This requires a lower ISO and a higher shutter speed, yes? (On moving objects/without tripod)
Yes, they taken with the Fuji.
None of them have been processed with Photoshop or anything.
I'm still not completely understanding how to use the camera properly. But I've been using P and S modes alot recently. Any advice good settings to use on an average day of railway phottage?
Main problem I've found is that my shots often blur. This requires a lower ISO and a higher shutter speed, yes? (On moving objects/without tripod)
Quote:->> This requires a lower ISO and a higher shutter speed, yes?>>
No to shoot handheld when the light is poor you need a 'higher' ie bigger number, ISO and a higher shutter speed. Anything that is moving , and that includes people , you need at least 1/125 sec or even 1/250 sec as a shutter speed. An ISO of 400 or higher would be needed for the sort of shots you are taking on your website.
You may be getting confused about taking better pictures in the dark using a tripod. Using a higher ISO ( like 400 800 or 1600 if the camera is fitted) will give a more 'noisy' picture, it will look less sharp.. With a tripod and in the dark , I would tend to drop the ISO to 100ASA, to get rid of as much camera digital noise as possible , and then change the fstop to something like f11 , f13 or more to get a large Depth of Field ( ie a good focus from one end of a Pendolino to the other , for example).. This will give me a shutter speed of 2 to 30 seconds and no way would you hold a camera steady for that.
I have tried to see what settings you used for the 4 pics above, but the exif info has got lost somewhere in the posting, probably the forum software.
The 180 shot:- as good as can be expected bearing in mind the weather- no problems photographically with that.
153344:- perfect.. the only slight 'defect' is the people on the stairs behind the DMU are blurred because they moved .. Had you waited 3 or 4 seconds they would ahve been behind the unit.. ( That's not a critism by the way)
66563 shot:- Perfect focus , Depth of Field etc, sky slightly 'washed out', but a pretty good effort. I could try and tell you how to recover some of the sky, but at the moment concentrate on getting all the shots as good as that, and you can learn to 'tweak ' them later.
The Voyager shot..Excellent- shot into the sun , but hiding it behind that bridge. Depth of Field - perfect, all other settings fine. Only slight problem is the trolley on the left moved... You should have increased the ISO to the next available , ie 200ISO to 400ISO , AND changed the shutter from 1/60th to 1/125 or more if possible.
Just my personal comments by the way, others may see an image entirely differently. You may have wanted the trolley blurred to indicate that it was moving..
No to shoot handheld when the light is poor you need a 'higher' ie bigger number, ISO and a higher shutter speed. Anything that is moving , and that includes people , you need at least 1/125 sec or even 1/250 sec as a shutter speed. An ISO of 400 or higher would be needed for the sort of shots you are taking on your website.
You may be getting confused about taking better pictures in the dark using a tripod. Using a higher ISO ( like 400 800 or 1600 if the camera is fitted) will give a more 'noisy' picture, it will look less sharp.. With a tripod and in the dark , I would tend to drop the ISO to 100ASA, to get rid of as much camera digital noise as possible , and then change the fstop to something like f11 , f13 or more to get a large Depth of Field ( ie a good focus from one end of a Pendolino to the other , for example).. This will give me a shutter speed of 2 to 30 seconds and no way would you hold a camera steady for that.
I have tried to see what settings you used for the 4 pics above, but the exif info has got lost somewhere in the posting, probably the forum software.
The 180 shot:- as good as can be expected bearing in mind the weather- no problems photographically with that.
153344:- perfect.. the only slight 'defect' is the people on the stairs behind the DMU are blurred because they moved .. Had you waited 3 or 4 seconds they would ahve been behind the unit.. ( That's not a critism by the way)
66563 shot:- Perfect focus , Depth of Field etc, sky slightly 'washed out', but a pretty good effort. I could try and tell you how to recover some of the sky, but at the moment concentrate on getting all the shots as good as that, and you can learn to 'tweak ' them later.
The Voyager shot..Excellent- shot into the sun , but hiding it behind that bridge. Depth of Field - perfect, all other settings fine. Only slight problem is the trolley on the left moved... You should have increased the ISO to the next available , ie 200ISO to 400ISO , AND changed the shutter from 1/60th to 1/125 or more if possible.
Just my personal comments by the way, others may see an image entirely differently. You may have wanted the trolley blurred to indicate that it was moving..
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Generally the higher the shutter speed the better, but that lowers the amount of light entering the camera. Increasing the ISO will brighten the photo, but you'll also get more noise.
It's all about 'stops', which is a measurement of light interchangeable between shutter speed, aperture and ISO. Basically if you change one of them 1 stop you need to change the others to compensate and keep the exposure the same. For example, 1/250 f8 ISO100 is the same as 1/500 f5.6 ISO100 or 1/500 f8 ISO200. Any of these combinations would produce the same exposure.
Clear as mud?
It's all about 'stops', which is a measurement of light interchangeable between shutter speed, aperture and ISO. Basically if you change one of them 1 stop you need to change the others to compensate and keep the exposure the same. For example, 1/250 f8 ISO100 is the same as 1/500 f5.6 ISO100 or 1/500 f8 ISO200. Any of these combinations would produce the same exposure.
Clear as mud?
Techniquest
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Out of the four posted on the thread, I like the 180 and the Voyager shots the most.
The bits about ISO, f numbers and shutter speeds is too technical for me (I only use a Nikon Coolpix so most of this is too jargon-like for me), but I'd agree that weather wise, your 180 shot wasn't going to be much better. It came out quite well I reckon.
I am curious as to what persuaded you to use that angle on the shot of 155344 though.
As for the 66, I'd have gone for a wider shot, getting more of the wagons in view as well. Otherwise, looks like it came out well.
The Voyager phot I agree with Craig on, it would look good in black and white. Slightly lower exposure would have been good too.
Other than that, investing in a tripod would be a good idea. Surprising how useful one can be!
The bits about ISO, f numbers and shutter speeds is too technical for me (I only use a Nikon Coolpix so most of this is too jargon-like for me), but I'd agree that weather wise, your 180 shot wasn't going to be much better. It came out quite well I reckon.
I am curious as to what persuaded you to use that angle on the shot of 155344 though.
As for the 66, I'd have gone for a wider shot, getting more of the wagons in view as well. Otherwise, looks like it came out well.
The Voyager phot I agree with Craig on, it would look good in black and white. Slightly lower exposure would have been good too.
Other than that, investing in a tripod would be a good idea. Surprising how useful one can be!
Techniquest
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I got mine from Argos last year, £11.99 I think it was (got it for a bit less with staff discount). Quite light and portable really. Indeed, I've had it for a year now and was on the Up Bodysnatcher at this time with it a year ago today! 
I do concur that tripods are annoying to carry around, but well worth it if you're going to do a lot of photography at night time.
I do concur that tripods are annoying to carry around, but well worth it if you're going to do a lot of photography at night time.
Good phots, and whether your a casual shooter or not is your own choice, the beauty is that with the choice on the market now there is a camera to suit all.
Whilst Craig has been accused of being harsh over 2 and 3, I'd certainly agree on the shed photo, sometimes depending on what the surroundings are it's nicer to include them too.
Whilst Craig has been accused of being harsh over 2 and 3, I'd certainly agree on the shed photo, sometimes depending on what the surroundings are it's nicer to include them too.
adamp
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>>>>>>>>>>>Slightly off topic but how do you do that?<<<<<<<
There are many tricks and tips that will help to recover lost detail, using Photoshop, or Paintshop pro or similar. All take more than a few minutes to explain, although once you know how, it doesnt take that long. There are some excelent tutorials already on various sites- do a google search for Photoshop tutorial image recovery.. they will be biased towards PS, but the techniques are easily transferred to other programs....
You can help by doing a 'trick' with the camera ( assuming you are not using RAW) by underexposing by a stop or more, then on a computer, selecting various parts of the image, selectively brighten or enhance the parts you want leaving the 'sky' an all over more natural feel.
Just depends how far you want to go down that route, or if you are a point and shoot person.
There are many tricks and tips that will help to recover lost detail, using Photoshop, or Paintshop pro or similar. All take more than a few minutes to explain, although once you know how, it doesnt take that long. There are some excelent tutorials already on various sites- do a google search for Photoshop tutorial image recovery.. they will be biased towards PS, but the techniques are easily transferred to other programs....
You can help by doing a 'trick' with the camera ( assuming you are not using RAW) by underexposing by a stop or more, then on a computer, selecting various parts of the image, selectively brighten or enhance the parts you want leaving the 'sky' an all over more natural feel.
Just depends how far you want to go down that route, or if you are a point and shoot person.
CraigS
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I quite like the shot of the 180 
I did say they were ok shots to begin with and Gizzy asked for "opinions, advice and constructive criticism" which I gave rather than being sycophantic and saying they were great
Techniquest
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Yeah, see I'm not really a serious photographer. I just enjoy the casual phot
Well aye, I can't say I'm well into photography either. Too much effort, although a good photograph of a train I particularly like is a work of art to me.
Casual photography is much more my style. Much more fun. Which is probably why one would never see me linesiding all day (bar 22nd February 2008 that is).
Amazing shots btw
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Cheers.
The 155 was taken at that angle because it was dark, I didn't have a tripod and just put my camera on the floor
A tripod would come in handy, but I'm not really sure that I'd want to be carrying one around.
Like I've told you before, make the commitment Shauna.
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