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Tom

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Is there a problem with displaying the train diagram in the app? It comes up with a blank on my Android device. Uninstalled the app and everything.
It's being looked into.

Edit: it should now be resolved.
 
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I’ve noticed that unlike the android version, the apple version of the app rounds times to whole minutes in detailed mode. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the reason for this is?
 

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Any idea which mileage is correct?
(Images shows screenshot from Railmiles showing discrepancy between Brighton to London Bridge and return)
Both via Quarry.
 

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Any idea which mileage is correct?
(Images shows screenshot from Railmiles showing discrepancy between Brighton to London Bridge and return)
Both via Quarry.
The Railway Codes Website gives the following ELR mileages for London bridge to Brighton:

LBW 0m00ch (London Bridge, assume original Buffer Stops of LBSCR) to 9m69ch (Windmill Bridge Jn Fast Lines)
VTB2 9m69ch to 21m37ch (Earlswood Jn) VIA QUARRY
VTB3 21m31ch to 50m49ch (Brighton Station, assume Buffers)
 

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Strange one yesterday. I am aware that "In platform" is shown when the train enters the signal berth covering the platform, but clearly not in this case.
I was at Carnforth, waiting for the 11:57 to Lancaster (Northern, Leeds to Morecambe) which was running late.
At around 11:59 I checked the running on RTT, to see "At Platform" which it wasn't. The train arrived at 12:25. When I checked in the afternoon the message was still there.
 

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The Railway Codes Website gives the following ELR mileages for London bridge to Brighton:

LBW 0m00ch (London Bridge, assume original Buffer Stops of LBSCR) to 9m69ch (Windmill Bridge Jn Fast Lines)
VTB2 9m69ch to 21m37ch (Earlswood Jn) VIA QUARRY
VTB3 21m31ch to 50m49ch (Brighton Station, assume Buffers)
Thanks have let them know.
 

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Strange one yesterday. I am aware that "In platform" is shown when the train enters the signal berth covering the platform, but clearly not in this case.
I was at Carnforth, waiting for the 11:57 to Lancaster (Northern, Leeds to Morecambe) which was running late.
At around 11:59 I checked the running on RTT, to see "At Platform" which it wasn't. The train arrived at 12:25. When I checked in the afternoon the message was still there.

If it came from the settle / Carlisle line, there is limited signalling technology so I'm guessing that when the train enters it's next signal berth (which could be many miles in a non-TD area), it shows as in platform. I don't know how approaching and in platform differ but I'd guess it changes once the berth step time has elapsed
 

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Strange one yesterday. I am aware that "In platform" is shown when the train enters the signal berth covering the platform, but clearly not in this case.
I was at Carnforth, waiting for the 11:57 to Lancaster (Northern, Leeds to Morecambe) which was running late.
At around 11:59 I checked the running on RTT, to see "At Platform" which it wasn't. The train arrived at 12:25. When I checked in the afternoon the message was still there.
Settle Jn to Carnforth Station Jn is a single Absolute Block section (the longest in the country at 26 miles). Carnforth station itself doesn't have train describers, so the train would have shown as arriving at Carnforth as soon as the Settle Jn signaller entered the report that the train was passing.
 

louis97

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Settle Jn to Carnforth Station Jn is a single Absolute Block section (the longest in the country at 26 miles). Carnforth station itself doesn't have train describers, so the train would have shown as arriving at Carnforth as soon as the Settle Jn signaller entered the report that the train was passing.
Carnforth Station has train describers to an extent, as it has approaching berths and last sent berths (which do actually step in relation to a Barrow or Skipton bound train departing the station) with the fringe to Preston. The "At Platform" appears when a headcode is interposed in an approaching berth, it really needs removing and replacing with just confirming the platform number when this happens. There is no link between a manual report being entered at Settle Junction and showing arriving at Carnforth.

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Any idea which mileage is correct?
(Images shows screenshot from Railmiles showing discrepancy between Brighton to London Bridge and return)
Both via Quarry.
There is an issue for trains departing London Bridge in the down direction via Corbetts Lane Junction. The lower value will be correct for a train to/from London Bridge through platforms, note that the above calculation is from the low level station which has a different mileage.
 

8ace

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Carnforth Station has train describers to an extent, as it has approaching berths and last sent berths (which do actually step in relation to a Barrow or Skipton bound train departing the station) with the fringe to Preston. The "At Platform" appears when a headcode is interposed in an approaching berth, it really needs removing and replacing with just confirming the platform number when this happens. There is no link between a manual report being entered at Settle Junction and showing arriving at Carnforth.

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There is an issue for trains departing London Bridge in the down direction via Corbetts Lane Junction. The lower value will be correct for a train to/from London Bridge through platforms, note that the above calculation is from the low level station which has a different mileage.
what route does it calculate to be eight and a half miles different then?
 

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what route does it calculate to be eight and a half miles different then?
A non-direct route which no train will ever use, its an issue in the back end data which causes the mileage engine to think there is no other route when a train is timed at Corbetts Lane Junction.
 

kemal

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Morning

Southern trains seem to be missing some train allocations this morning.
 

Tom

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Missing allocations are not in our control (in the few cases I've checked just now they are all because we simply haven't received an allocation and nor have others.)
 

kemal

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Missing allocations are not in our control (in the few cases I've checked just now they are all because we simply haven't received an allocation and nor have others.)
Thank you for your reply Tom
 

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I'm unsure if this is a website or external issue but these massive greater anglia ads that block the whole screen carry on popping up.
Picture is of a huge greater anglia ad blocking the whole screen
 

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I'm unsure if this is a website or external issue but these massive greater anglia ads that block the whole screen carry on popping up.
I think this is a problem on your end (not trying to be rude!), I have seen exactly the same banner ad on mobile recently, and it only covers about 1/10th of the bottom of my screen. Try an adblocker.
 

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I've seen the same GA ad take up half my screen, and it can be collapsed to just the usual small banner at the bottom.
 

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There is a (nearly) direct campaign being purchased by Greater Anglia at the moment which we are seeing if it works.

This is in conjunction with various efforts by our advertising partner to increase revenue as it is in the gutter at the moment for various reasons.

If you have any issues with the ads, please report them directly to our support email.

And as with this forum I expect as well, encouraging the use of an ad blocker is not particularly appreciated no matter how much you don't like them. Ultimately the advertising, and now subscriptions which we would recommend if you want to avoid the ads (which provide a lot of other things too!), pay to keep the website alive. Without those, the site would not exist and the people I employ would be out of jobs.

While we do receive money from other sources including some consultancy for the industry, I keep those isolated and deliberately do not rely on them so that we can continue to do the work we do and pushing the industry in directions it might not want to take. We have done things in the past that were frowned upon at the time yet are now done by the industry themselves, and we lost work at the time because of it.
 
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This morning the 0517 Bletchley > Bedford service (2S01) was cancelled. RTT indicates that the train was cancelled "due to a mishap (TY)". I don't think I have seen that before. What does it mean?

( I know there is some interpretation of the codes used on RTT)
 

Tom

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TY is one of the few that is exactly what it is and completely untranslated - TY is Mishap TOC related causes. Typically some sort of derailment.
 

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Anyone here experienced this while trying to access RTT over the last day or two? I happens once or twice a day but then when refreshed it loads RTT.

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