Ravenhead Freight move (St Helens)

[Y961 XBU]

Looking to get this a few times over the coming months, Does anyone know what 66 is booked onto it Tomoz?

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R72273/2016/04/27/advanced

 

[8A Rail]

Looking to get this a few times over the coming months, Does anyone know what 66 is booked onto it Tomoz?
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R72273/2016/04/27/advanced

CANCELLED - did not operate

 

[Y961 XBU]

Yea, First time its been cancelled since it started, Does anyone know why it could of been cancelled?

 

[8A Rail]

Yea, First time its been cancelled since it started, Does anyone know why it could of been cancelled?

I think a clue could be that the Ellesmere Port sand train operated yesterday morning too. I think it may use the same wagons on the days it is not operating to E/Port?

 

[Oxfordblues]

When I was a TOPS clerk at Arpley Marshalling Yards in the late-1970s we had a regular flow of sand for glassmaking from Oakamoor in Staffordshire to Pilkington Glass's siding at Ravenhead in St Helens. This sounds like something similar.

 

[8A Rail]

When I was a TOPS clerk at Arpley Marshalling Yards in the late-1970s we had a regular flow of sand for glassmaking from Oakamoor in Staffordshire to Pilkington Glass's siding at Ravenhead in St Helens. This sounds like something similar.

It is and literally the same works too. The sand flow between those two locations carried on until about 1984/5.

 

[furnessvale]

It is and literally the same works too. The sand flow between those two locations carried on until about 1984/5.

I believe the supply was changed to a quarry in Cheshire which is not rail connected.

Could that quarry now be running low and an alternative source being explored? (The Cheshire quarry and the alternative at Kings Lynn are both in the same ownership).