Railway General Knowledge.

[Cowley]

After the King class was introduced George V would have died and Edward VIII took over, then abdicated before George VI took over. These last two would've been the new names but I'm not sure which locos, was King John one of them? (I don't even know it's number ).
That's as far as I can get.

 

[t_star2001uk]

6028 King George VI Originally built as King Henry II, renamed January 1937.

6029 King Edward VIII Originally built as King Stephen, renamed May 1936.

open floor if correct..

 

[EbbwJunction1]

After the King class was introduced George V would have died and Edward VIII took over, then abdicated before George VI took over. These last two would've been the new names but I'm not sure which locos, was King John one of them? (I don't even know it's number ).
That's as far as I can get.

You have the names of the new monarchs right ....

6028 King George VI Originally built as King Henry II, renamed January 1937.

6029 King Edward VIII Originally built as King Stephen, renamed May 1936.

open floor if correct..

but t_star2001uk is 100% correct, well done; open floor recognised.

 

[Calthrop]

On what narrow-gauge railway did the locomotives Woto and Sir Tom, originally enter operation?

 

[t_star2001uk]

Was it BICC in Kent

Open floor if correct...

 

[Calthrop]

Correct -- the locos (Bagnall 0-4-0STs) entered service on the 3' 6" gauge system of Callenders Cables Construction Co. (later renamed BICC) at Erith, in 1924 and 1926 respectively. Ran till system's closure in 1968: were saved from scrapping, and are now operational in preservation, regauged to 2 '.

Open floor, as per request.

 

[EbbwJunction1]

What possibly confusing feature of the railways was removed in turn by the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway (around 1906), the Midland Railway in 1912 and the Great Western Railway during the period between 1927 and 1930?

 

[neilb62]

Station names as locomotive names leading to confused 'normals' mistaking the name for the trains destination.

Open floor if correct.

 

[EbbwJunction1]

Station names as locomotive names leading to confused 'normals' mistaking the name for the trains destination. Open floor if correct.

Yes, that's correct, well done.

Membership of the Locomotive Naming Panel is open to anyone who wishes to accept the position!

 

[EbbwJunction1]

So, no-one wants this onerous task, then?

What have these locomotives all got in common?
USA 4-4-0 Locomotive The General
SR 4-4-0 Schools Class locomotive Harrow
LMS 2-6-0+0-6-2 Beyer-Garratt Locomotive
BR Standard 2-10-0 9F locomotive Evening Star

 

[theageofthetra]

Is it anything to do with non standard chimneys?

The General had a diamond shaped one for most of its later life as a coal burner. In fact what sits in Kennesaw GA has no resemblance at all to the loco that existed during the civil war- its not even the right colour!

A Schools was fitted with a special chimney during the war to try and reduce visibility from steam & smoke to enemy aircraft- was it Harrow?

Evening Star had its special copper chimney top.

Sorry no idea about the Garrett- did it have an experimental one?

 

[EbbwJunction1]

It's nothing to do with chimneys, I'm afraid.

 

[EbbwJunction1]

Well, as I'm not going to be around much for a few days, I'll give you the answer.

They were all the subject of a range of model kits produced by Rosebud Kitmaster, which was the brand name of a short-lived but critically acclaimed range of plastic assembly kits, manufactured in the UK by Rosebud Dolls Ltd of Raunds, Northamptonshire from May 1959.

The range rapidly expanded to include 34 models of railway locomotives and coaches in OO, HO and TT scales, and eventually, one motorcycle in 1/16 scale.
This was the range of railway models:

The 00/HO gauge models consisted of:
Kit No 1 - Stephenson's Rocket
Kit No 2 - BR Class 08 diesel shunter locomotive
Kit No 3 - USA 4-4-0 Locomotive The General
Kit No 4 - LMS Coronation Class locomotive Duchess of Gloucester
Kit No 5 - SR 4-4-0 Schools Class locomotive Harrow
Kit No 6 - Lancashire & Yorkshire 0-4-0 saddle tank locomotive
Kit No 7 - GWR Prairie Tank locomotive
Kit No 8 - Italian 0-6-0 tank locomotive
Kit No 9 - Stirling 8ft Single locomotive
Kit No 10 - Deltic Prototype diesel locomotive
Kit No 11 - SR 4-6-2 Battle of Britain Class locomotive Biggin Hill
Kit No 12 - Swiss Crocodile electric locomotive
Kit No 13 - BR Standard Mk1 Corridor Composite Coach (in Maroon or Green)
Kit No 14 - BR Standard Mk1 Corridor 2nd Coach (in Maroon or Green)
Kit No 15 - BR Standard Mk1 Corridor Brake 2nd Coach (in Maroon or Green)
Kit No 19 - German 2-6-2 locomotive class 23
Kit No 22 - BR Standard 2-10-0 9F locomotive Evening Star
Kit No 23 - SNCF Class 241P 'Mountain' locomotive
Kit No 24 - GWR 4-4-0 locomotive City of Truro
Kit No 25 - LMS 2-6-0+0-6-2 Beyer-Garratt Locomotive
Kit No 26 - 0-6-0ST "Austerity" class J94
Kit No 27 - German DB Koln Munchen Coach
Kit No 28 - BR Standard Mk1 Restaurant 1st Coach (in Maroon or Green)
Kit No 29 - French SNCF INOX aluminium coach
Kit No 30 - BR 2-6-0 Standard Class 4 'Mogul'
Kit No 31 - Midland Blue Pullman power car
Kit No 32 - Midland Blue Pullman kitchen car
Kit No 33 - Midland Blue Pullman parlour car
Kit No 34 - New York 'Hudson' 4-6-4 steam locomotive

The TT gauge models were: -
Kit No 16 - LMS 4-6-0 locomotive Royal Scot
Kit No 17 - BR Standard Mk1 Corridor Brake 2nd Coach (in Maroon or Green)
Kit No 18 - BR Standard Mk1 Corridor Composite Coach (in Maroon or Green)
Kit No 20 - BR Standard Mk1 Corridor 2nd Coach (in Maroon or Green)
Kit No 21 - BR Standard Mk1 Restaurant 1st Coach (in Maroon or Green)

I'll also declare an open modelling bench!

 

[Calthrop]

Floor is open – can people bear yet another of my World-War-2-minor-lines-in-France ones?

At the time of that conflict, which French minor railway served (and played a part in the relevant doings – section of line most concerned thus, now running under preservation) an area characterised by a particularly high incidence of people’s courageously protecting and sheltering Jews, from the governing régime’s attempts to deport them for killing? (At least a couple of books have been published, about this role played by this part of the country.)

 

[theageofthetra]

Floor is open – can people bear yet another of my World-War-2-minor-lines-in-France ones?

At the time of that conflict, which French minor railway served (and played a part in the relevant doings – section of line most concerned thus, now running under preservation) an area characterised by a particularly high incidence of people’s courageously protecting and sheltering Jews, from the governing régime’s attempts to deport them for killing? (At least a couple of books have been published, about this role played by this part of the country.)

Vivrais Railway?

 

[Calthrop]

Vivrais Railway?

Ça fut bien vite, mon vieux ! Correct – the metre-gauge Réseau du Vivarais of the Chemins de Fer Départementaux undertaking. The system closed in 1968; preservation subsequently undertaken on two different stretches – the (rather less-acclaimed) more northerly one, now running as “Velay Express” between Raucoules-Brossette and Saint-Agrève, was the portion of the system which played the greatest part in the activity touched on by the question – particularly in the Le Chambon sur Lignon / Le Mazet area.

Le plancher est à vous !

 

[theageofthetra]

Sorry completely forgot I had been awarded this.

The 4-4-0 was very much associated with the early days of American railroads. What US peculiarity lead to one of the country's largest manufacturers-Baldwins continuing to produce outdated 4-2-0 types for some time after the classic 'American' became the favoured US locomotive type.

 

[Calthrop]

Might it possibly be to do with some oddity, connected with the way things worked out in US railroads' the early decades -- namely that while the Baldwin works were in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; for a significant period, the very great majority of their customers were railroads in what were to become in the Civil War, the Confederate States? (I gather that this had the firm in quite a fix, for a while after the outbreak of the war.) Did the more-conservative Southerners persist in liking the 4-2-0 wheel arrangement?

 

[martinsh]

Was in the "Mother Hubbard" type ?

 

[theageofthetra]

Might it possibly be to do with some oddity, connected with the way things worked out in US railroads' the early decades -- namely that while the Baldwin works were in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; for a significant period, the very great majority of their customers were railroads in what were to become in the Civil War, the Confederate States? (I gather that this had the firm in quite a fix, for a while after the outbreak of the war.) Did the more-conservative Southerners persist in liking the 4-2-0 wheel arrangement?

Nothing to do with that.

 

[theageofthetra]

Was in the "Mother Hubbard" type ?

Nothing to do with Camel Backs

 

[theageofthetra]

The same reason lead to a very early articulated oddity which was a 4+2-0

 

[EbbwJunction1]

Was it connected with weight limits over the wooden bridges in the rural areas where railways crossed rivers etc.?

 

[krus_aragon]

Or perhaps related to the weight of the cow-catcher mounted at the front? (Too heavy for a pony truck, else they'd be building 2-2-0s?)

 

[theageofthetra]

There was no engineering reason as to why this happened.

 

[EbbwJunction1]

Were they tied to producing this type of locomotive for legal reasons, i.e. some sort of "patent protection" (if this actually exists!)?

 

[martinsh]

Was in connection with having to have extra-wide fireboxes to burn low grade coal ?

 

[theageofthetra]

Were they tied to producing this type of locomotive for leal reasons, i.e. some sort of "patent protection" (if this actually exists!)?

Near enough. In the early days of US railroads every slight change or improvement got patented- including new wheel arrangements.

Baldwins had a loyal customer base from making not very innovative but very sturdy and for the time very reliable products. A rival manufacturer held the patent in the US for the 4-4-0 wheel arrangement so to avoid paying for use of the patent they persisted with the 4-2-0 or got round it by creating a shaft driven 4+2-0.

Eventually a very lucrative order which insisted on a 4-4-0 lead to Baldwins biting the bullet and paying for the licence to manufacture this design.

Your litigious floor

 

[EbbwJunction1]

My apologies for not posting anything sooner ... I haven't got anything now, so the litigious floor is now open!

 

[Calthrop]

Here’s one – British this time.

Between the World Wars, the LMS ran fast freight services in competition with the GWR between Avonmouth / Bristol, and London; via the shortest all-over-their-own-or-joint-lines route, between those extremities. Please describe this route.