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Phil.

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In the era of the modernisation plan when a number of one-off prototype diesel locomotives took to the rails, which manufacturer completely ignored the appearance design brief when producing their example?

I wasn't aware of an appearance design brief but..............the Hymeks were never actually in the running for an order, the consortium that built them just designed and built them and offered them to B.R.
 

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None of the above.

Incidentally there was more than one class 28 and more than one class 35 so it couldn't have been those anyway...

Now, there aren't an awful lot of one offs from that time so I won't be handing out any clues just yet... except that this was one of the higher profile examples.
 

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Cowley - it is your floor.

Yes, when building D0260 Lion, BRCW ignored guidelines on the livery as well as the roof styling and a few other bits and pieces to do with the appearance.
 

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Thanks Peter. I'm struggling to think of a question so I'll say
open floor
 

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I'll beg leave to take the next one. A "gauges"-type question -- a kind which I'm rather fond of.

Of the islands in the Mediterranean which have, or have had, public passenger railways: on which different gauges, have these pub. pass. railways run? (Indication of respective gauges / islands would be pleasing, but is not required.)
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Hint: there were, "at peak", five different gauges involved -- four of them still active on various Med. islands today.
 
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I will start with the three islands I have visited..
Crete No public services but several industrial lines(all now closed) with gauges of 1 metre, 900mm and 600mm
Malta -one passenger carrying line closed in 1931 -- metre gauge
Majorca- Still open passenger lines
Palma- Soller and the (excellent) Soller Tram line all 3 feet gauge ( I believe British built!)
The new Palma metro system is metre gauge
 

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I will start with the three islands I have visited..
Crete No public services but several industrial lines(all now closed) with gauges of 1 metre, 900mm and 600mm
Malta -one passenger carrying line closed in 1931 -- metre gauge
Majorca- Still open passenger lines
Palma- Soller and the (excellent) Soller Tram line all 3 feet gauge ( I believe British built!)
The new Palma metro system is metre gauge

That's two islands and two gauges, out of those of which I was thinking -- question concerns public passenger railways (have no hatred of industrial lines, just not basically "my bag"). Four more islands and three more gauges to go !
 

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That's two islands and two gauges, out of those of which I was thinking -- question concerns public passenger railways (have no hatred of industrial lines, just not basically "my bag"). Four more islands and three more gauges to go !

Sicily- has the 950mm railway around Etna
I believe- a standard gauge system

Sardinia---950mm system

Cyprus had a 2feet 6 inches system which closed in 1951
 
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Thanks guys. The basic question was, which were the gauges involved; and steamybrian, you furnished all the gauges, so, your floor.

(Sardinia, like Sicily, has a 1435mm gauge system as well as 950mm.)
 

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Which is the oldest passenger station in London still in operation today..?


(The answer may not be obvious and even Network Rail get it wrong.!)
 

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Which is the oldest passenger station in London still in operation today..?


(The answer may not be obvious and even Network Rail get it wrong.!)

Bit of definition here. Are you referring to "London" or the City of London?

I think arguably it may be Deptford although people often quote London Bridge. In the city it may well be Liverpool Street.
 
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According to various books on the subject they seem to agree

Deptford was the answer I was looking for.
It opened 8 Feb 1836 and trains ran to Spa Road (now closed)
London Bridge opened 14 December 1836 and Greenwich 24 December 1838.

The first (still operational) inside City of London was Fenchurch Street 2 August 1841
 

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Things seem to have been "stalled" for some five days. Any possibility of getting the game going again -- declaring "open floor", maybe?
 

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Go on then.

Why is the tube network so much bigger and suburban network much smaller north of the Thames?
 

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Are they all locos that have worked on the West Somerset railway?
 

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