Railway General Knowledge.

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Sounds like Chester, in about 1969. Class 24 hauled freight pranged DMU, various other units and 24s damaged by the resulting fire. Not sure about the current evidence - lack of awnings/roof at Eastern end of Chester station??

The freight train in that occasion was the 0225 Birkehead to Etruria ore train of over 1000 tons and once it was established that it was out of control, it was diverted into the Chester diesel depot to avoid the passage of this train through the station area, where obviously damage to both buildings and rolling stock would have occurred.

However, in 1968 at Castlecary, Class 24 D5122 running light engine pased a signal at danger and ran into the rear of the 0846 Glasgow to Edinburgh 12car DMU (made up of two x 6 car Class 126 units)...so I will choose this one for my entry...but now realise I must be wrong as the locomotive was running LIGHT ENGINE and did not have a freight train attached.

 

[Trainfan344]

The freight train in that occasion was the 0225 Birkehead to Etruria ore train of over 1000 tons and once it was established that it was out of control, it was diverted into the Chester diesel depot to avoid the passage of this train through the station area, where obviously damage to both buildings and rolling stock would have occurred.

However, in 1968 at Castlecary, Class 24 D5122 running light engine pased a signal at danger and ran into the rear of the 0846 Glasgow to Edinburgh 12car DMU (made up of two x 6 car Class 126 units)...so I will choose this one for my entry

However there was one in 1972 at Chester, and the visible signs is a missing bit of station roof Which is my awnser

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

However there was one in 1972 at Chester, and the visible signs is a missing bit of station roof Which is my answer

This looks to meet the question specification.

On 9th May 1972, the 1931 Ellesmere Port to Mold Junction freight train with 38 vehicles including tank wagons filled with petroleum products suffered brake defects and was out of control, passing several signals set at danger, entered into bay platform 11 at Chester station at 20 mph and collided with an empty 2-car DMU.

The force of the collision drove the 2-car DMU over the stop blocks and onto the platform, where the leading coach demolished a wall of the station refreshment room. Fire broke out under the freight train locomotive, enveloping four of the tank wagons and the fire then spread to another empty DMU standing in platform 12 and also enveloped three coaches of the 1915 Bangor to Crewe DMU that was standing at platform 10.

The station roof over platforms 11 and 12 and station buildings on both platforms 10 and 13, all suffered damaged.

 

[Trainfan344]

This looks to meet the question specification.

On 9th May 1972, the 1931 Ellesmere Port to Mold Junction freight train with 38 vehicles including tank wagons filled with petroleum products suffered brake defects and was out of control, passing several signals set at danger, entered into bay platform 11 at Chester station at 20 mph and collided with an empty 2-car DMU.

The force of the collision drove the 2-car DMU over the stop blocks and onto the platform, where the leading coach demolished a wall of the station refreshment room. Fire broke out under the freight train locomotive, enveloping four of the tank wagons and the fire then spread to another empty DMU standing in platform 12 and also enveloped three coaches of the 1915 Bangor to Crewe DMU that was standing at platform 10.

The station roof over platforms 11 and 12 and station buildings on both platforms 10 and 13, all suffered damaged.

yes, i thought i remembered something as had a book of rail accidents out from the library not too long ago, it mentioned this in it.

 

[Welshman]

Sounds like Chester, in about 1969. Class 24 hauled freight pranged DMU, various other units and 24s damaged by the resulting fire. Not sure about the current evidence - lack of awnings/roof at Eastern end of Chester station??

Correct

It was actually on 8th May 1972 when a runaway freight train from Helsby was diverted into platform 5 at Chester[then General]station, crashing into an empty dmu, which was pushed on to the platform, demolishing the refreshment room wall. Fortunately, no-one was killed. The resulting fire destroyed part of the station roof, which is still missing today, over platforms 4 & 5.

 

[Trainfan344]

Correct

It was actually on 8th May 1972 when a runaway freight train from Helsby was diverted into platform 5 at Chester[then General]station, crashing into an empty dmu, which was pushed on to the platform, demolishing the refreshment room wall. Fortunately, no-one was killed. The resulting fire destroyed part of the station roof, which is still missing today, over platforms 4 & 5.

However there was one in 1972 at Chester, and the visible signs is a missing bit of station roof Which is my awnser

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[D841 Roebuck]

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Your floor. Your andwer had the year right, mine didn't!

 

[Welshman]

Yes - apologies to all who submitted answers, and to D841Roebuck & Trainfan344 in particular.

Although D841Roebuck was first with the general gist and got the location right, it was Trainfan344 in #1142 who was first to mention the correct date.

So it is now Trainfan344's turn, and I shall don my hairshirt and sit in a darkened room for a while.

 

[Trainfan344]

Where was the Accident in an unlucky place where a light engine that had been turned was hit by an express train which resulted in no deaths due to a speed restriction?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

18th May 1947

Lambrigg Crossing between Greyrigg and Oxenholme.

 

[Trainfan344]

18th May 1947

Lambrigg Crossing between Greyrigg and Oxenholme.

Not the one i was thinking off, Try a bit earlier...

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

27th February 1927

Penistone

 

[Trainfan344]

27th February 1927

Penistone

Correct, Some info on the accident: 27 February, 1927. An avoidable accident blamed mainly on signalman's error, in which an LMS locomotive, Aspinall radial tank No. 10760, from the Huddersfield line, having arrived and discharged its passengers, needed to clear the line to allow an empty coaching stock train from Bradford to enter the station. It shunted its stock into the other LMS platform to prepare for the return working. The locomotive then needed to be turned (unnecessarily but following usual practice on the line) and worked to the opposite end of the train, a move needing quite a few backwards and forwards shunts. The final move to reach the front of his train was via the LMS "up" line, a wrong line movement which started on the LNER line as this was the only route available to reach his train. The driver made this last movement on his own, the fireman being sent to "mash" (brew) the tea in the porter's room. The last move was controlled by a hand signal but having given the signal, the Huddersfield Junction signalman, new on shift at 6 pm, forgot to set the points for the LMS line and the locomotive went along the main line into the station platform. The driver realised that something was wrong and stopped. On seeing the signal at the east end of the platform go "off", he thought that the signalman had realised his error and the signal was meant for him. He moved off to regain his right line, but the signal was in fact intended for the Manchester - Marylebone express, loaded to five coaches and hauled by class D10 "Director" No.5437 "Prince George", which was approaching. Because of the speed restriction in force at Penistone, the train was easing up and the impact speed was around 20 miles per hour (32 km/h). The LMS driver was the most seriously hurt in the accident. His fireman jumped clear and the LNER crew were shaken.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

What now-closed private station was built in 1883 on a branch line off the West Coast Main Line to serve a residence of a local notable and is now part of a golf club.... and what was the name of the branch line.

 

[martinsh]

Trentham Gardens ?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

No...not in this region............ (The Trentham branch line was not opened until 1910)

 

[D841 Roebuck]

The Stanmore branch?

Was financed by some sort of hotelier bod, who made the mistake of failing to specify a south facing junction at Harrow and Wealdstone.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Not so....the area concerned is near to a maritime and canal situation.

 

[steamybrian]

Ashton Hall
now Lancaster Golf Club

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Ashton Hall
now Lancaster Golf Club

Is the correct answer. The branch is the Glasson Dock branch. The station was opened in July 1883 and closed in July 1930.

Please set the next one.

 

[steamybrian]

Where was the worlds first "passenger train tube tunnel" railway opened and what track gauge was it?
Specially note that it excludes conventional tunnels with a brick surround or "cut and cover" underground lines such as London's Metropolitan Railway.

 

[martinsh]

Your reference to "what gauge" makes me think the answer you want is

Tower Subway, crossing Thames near Tower Bridge briefly in use in 1870, gauge 2ft 6in

rather than

City & South London Railway from King William Street to Stockwell opened in1890. I can't fins any mention of the gauge, so I assume it was standard.

 

[steamybrian]

Your reference to "what gauge" makes me think the answer you want is

Tower Subway, crossing Thames near Tower Bridge briefly in use in 1870, gauge 2ft 6in

Correct -well done.!
I was beginning to think that no-one would get it.

 

[martinsh]

What line in the UK was regauged from 3ft 6in to 3ft in the mid 1980s ?

 

[Ivo]

That wouldn't happen to be...

...the pier back home, would it? Done upon its de-electrification (in '86 I think)?

Southend Pier Railway

 

[martinsh]

That wouldn't happen to be...

...the pier back home, would it? Done upon its de-electrification (in '86 I think)?

Southend Pier Railway

D*mn ! I didn't realise you frequented this Forum !

Yes, the Southend Pier Railway

 

[Ivo]

D*mn ! I didn't realise you frequented this Forum !

Yes, the Southend Pier Railway

What do you mean, you "didn't realise"?

I knew it was regauged to 3" in the '80s, but didn't know what from (although I knew the new size was smaller). An educated guess, you might say.

Next question:

What was the first new British Railways station to open in the former Southern Region post-Beeching, and in what year?

 

[Eagle]

What year are we calling post-Beeching? (For instance, Southampton Airport Parkway opened in 1966, does that count?)

 

[Ivo]

The last closures affected by the Report were in 1973. Thus the earliest permitted date is 1974 (or late in 1973).

Even so however, a station had previously existed on the site of the modern SOA. The station I am thinking of was a completely new development.

 

[Buttsy]

Winnersh Triangle?