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Ok everyone is getting colder. Its a freight carrying system called Railveyor. So open floor

It is used in mainly mining sites and uses a series of horizontally mounted tyres along the route which push against a set of wheel spats which run the entire length of the train on either side.

The motors and tyres used are enormous so it must be very powerful.

It allows for some impressive acceleration and hill climbing and the ability to stop the whole train very quickly in an emergency.

The most bizarre part is that the whole train flips over like a looping rollercoaster to empty its cargo then loops back again to be reloaded.

The patent has been around since the 60's so not sure which came first - rollercoasters or 'log flume' rides using tyres or this system!

There are other variations on this system including one hauled by a bizarre tracked vehicle across rough terrain with no rails at all.

Here are the links to a couple of YouTube clips of it opperating. (Mods feel free to change if not correctly uploaded)

https://youtu.be/B9qLdSJpbuk

https://youtu.be/1XkioFHJgDA

A variation- https://youtu.be/05L0a9aazhs
 
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May I vary things with a very non-numerical and non-technical one :)?

There was in Great Britain a branch line, terminating at a country town, which started its life with its main-line junction on one main route of great importance. Long afterward, the branch was reduced to about half its length hitherto; with a new junction being made with another important main route. (All of this carried out by -- and involving lines of -- the same major railway company.)

Which was the branch line referred to above?
 

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May I vary things with a very non-numerical and non-technical one :)?

There was in Great Britain a branch line, terminating at a country town, which started its life with its main-line junction on one main route of great importance. Long afterward, the branch was reduced to about half its length hitherto; with a new junction being made with another important main route. (All of this carried out by -- and involving lines of -- the same major railway company.)

Which was the branch line referred to above?

Malmesbury !!
 

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Other than railways were the trains/railways depicted not the correct ones? - re The Great Train Robbery I presume you mean the 2013 film?
 

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There are two adjoining nations with adjoining coasts on the same sea; and there's a nearby chain of islands in that sea, a few miles off the mainland coast -- these islands essentially quite small, and mostly describable as "long-ish and thin". Approximately half of this island chain belongs to above nation A, and half to above neighbouring nation B. Nearly all nation A's islands here, have been served in the course of the railway era, by narrow-gauge public railways (a couple of them are, I believe, still thus served today). In contrast -- none of nation B's islands here, have ever had railways.

Whereabouts are: these islands; and the two nations concerned (please name the nations)?
 
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I think these are the Frisian Islands, in which case the nations are Germany and the Netherlands. [ German islands are those with railways ]

martinsh, you and I seem usually pretty much on the same page, re this RGK thread ! Correct -- the Dutch tend to call their railway-less lot, the "Wadden Islands". The Netherlands had "way back when", a great deal of lovely narrow gauge / steam-tramway trackage: a pity that they never thought to set up such, on these particular islands -- but it didn't happen.

Your floor.
 

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I'm going to set the QI klaxon off and say the LNWR? Although I think it may also possibly be a Scottish company.
 

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The Wylam colliery Puffing Billy was converted to an 0-8-0 early in its life around 1817 or so as it kept breaking the rails. After the rails improved it went back to an 0-4-0 & thats what is in the science museum. The tender was a two wheeled affair that held a water barrel

I am also sure I remember seeing a depiction of another ancient colliery loco that was an 0-8-0 tender loco in an old book.
 
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The Wylam colliery Puffing Billy was converted to an 0-8-0 early in its life around 1817 or so as it kept breaking the rails. After the rails improved it went back to an 0-4-0 & thats what is in the science museum. The tender was a two wheeled affair that held a water barrel

I am also sure I remember seeing a depiction of another ancient colliery loco that was an 0-8-0 tender loco in an old book.

Please supply citations, as this is MUCH earlier than the example I have.
 

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Here's a 1825 book discussing it (on page 154): A Practical Treatise on Rail-roads, and Interior Communication in General by Nicholas Wood

And a print of the locomotive, from the book:

Yes thats the picture I remember from an old railway book from the 60's my father had. The same book had this other later 0-8-0 colliery locomotive which despite being ancient survived into the the days of photography which
had almost solid looking wheels. Can't find any trace of it on-line though.

One of the earliest locomotives in the United States- the B & O 'monster' was also an 0-8-0 tender loco so they do go back to the dawn of the railways.
 

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Well it's hardly a conventional 0-8-0 is it ? since the "tender" wouldn't be capable of moving by itself (if indeed it could be uncoupled, I've decided to regard it as a 0-8-2 (or 2-8-0) tank loco.

Still waiting for reply of more conventional 0-8-0 on a public railway.
 

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Well it's hardly a conventional 0-8-0 is it ? since the "tender" wouldn't be capable of moving by itself (if indeed it could be uncoupled, I've decided to regard it as a 0-8-2 (or 2-8-0) tank loco.

Still waiting for reply of more conventional 0-8-0 on a public railway.

There was a much later one on the Barry Railway but was that a public railway as it was built by a colliery?
 

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Von Ryan's Express?

That's it. Its pulling the Nazi troop train that leads to the shoot out in the tunnel. This was the last scene to be shot in Italy. The silly extra scenes where Sinatra (Von Ryan) gets shot were filmed on the line between Malaga and Bobadilla. The girder Bridge can easily be visited by car if in the area, though security guards are sometimes posted there to prevent climbers getting access to the now very dangerous catwalks which Trevor Howard & British troops were on when they shot down the ME108's.

This extra scene looks daft, cheap,out of place and was insisted on by Sinatra as he wasn't happy at being depicted shooting the unarmed Italian girl earlier in the film (the actress/singer playing her is still very much alive and performing!). His character was due to survive and a sequel had been agreed.

Your implausible war film with ageing lead floor
 

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I wasn't aware -- or had forgotten -- that any of VRE had been filmed elsewhere than in Italy. I'd reckoned it a silly offering, replete with WW2-film cliches, but great for steam content. Might be less impressed with the latter, if I were to see it again today. As with the part of From Russia With Love where characters are travelling westward from Istanbul by train: was much impressed by this rail-and-steam element when first seeing the film, aged about 14 -- saw it again many years later, and thought the rail-journey part very crudely and incompetently slapped-together, including a fair number of British rail sequences !

New question -- concerning a certain classic and scenic US "short line" -- abandoned nearly seventy years ago, a brief stretch rebuilt and reopened in recent times as a tourist venture. This line sounds from its name, as though it ought to be on the opposite side of the country from that on which it is actually located. Please identify it.
 

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