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alexl92

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I often read various railway magazines, most of which have a page or two dedicated to review recently-released railway books.

I've noticed though that many of them have a very 'old-fashioned' look to them, as if they could have been published 20-odd years ago or even before that; very few show characteristics of modern book cover design.

I'm interested to know if there's any particular reason for this?
Is it a deliberately 'vintage' design, is it because they're aimed at a particular demographic, is it simply because many of them are not that bothered about paying the money for any more complex design or is it jsut conforming to a long-standing tradition?

Please note this is not a criticism, simply an observation. Interested to hear any thoughts.
 
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I'm not really sure what you mean by "modern book cover design"! I would have thought that the subjects covered by most books reviewed in railway magazines are of a specialist and factual nature, and only need to indicate clearly what each book is about.

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I don't understand this either. Are you talking about things like binding, typo, whether they have a colourful colour sleeve etc?

If the books are historical in nature, perhaps an "antique" look might make them more appealing to the target audience; conversely if the books are about modern times/stock etc, a more "modern" look would again be aimed at a specific audience.

Can you elaborate...?
 

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I'm going to hazard a guess at new books in the 'Power of the XXs' series, or the 'Looking back at the....' series , looking the same as the original ones?
 

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I often read various railway magazines, most of which have a page or two dedicated to review recently-released railway books.

I've noticed though that many of them have a very 'old-fashioned' look to them, as if they could have been published 20-odd years ago or even before that; very few show characteristics of modern book cover design.

I'm interested to know if there's any particular reason for this?
Is it a deliberately 'vintage' design, is it because they're aimed at a particular demographic, is it simply because many of them are not that bothered about paying the money for any more complex design or is it jsut conforming to a long-standing tradition?

Please note this is not a criticism, simply an observation. Interested to hear any thoughts.

I don't own many railway books (unlike books on other public transport subjects!) but I have stocked a fair number in my two bookshops over a period of thirty years, and even sold a few too. I think I know the type of publication you refer to, and I would divide them into two groups.

The first type consists mainly of books containing old black and white photos, No attempt has been made to clean the photos up, which, combined with poor quality paper, makes the photos very 'flat' and uninviting. As the company has long gone, I shall name and shame Alan Sutton Publishing of Gloucestershire, who basically published books of old photos, often focussed on individual areas e.g Stroud. The eponymous Sutton later fell out with the company and established a separate company which he succeeded (after legal action) in calling Sutton. The joke in publishing circles was that 'every expense was spared' in the production of these, almost always paperback, books. Middleton Press also published (and still do) cased editions of books of old photos themed on different lines, but using better quality paper and reproduction is better than with Sutton. It's basically run by 'enthusiasts' but certainly their books have a very old-fashioned look about them and, personally, I find their layout to be quite off-putting.

The second type are books with some original text to go with the photos, or a history of a type of loco or a railway line/region, etc. Ian Allan were big on these for decades, but in the latter years of their existence rehashed a lot of stuff with new titles or covers, or allowed someone who was not an expert in the field to write them, with predictable results! On my chosen subject of omnibuses some real stinkers were published in the earlier years of this century. Again, layouts hardly changed over the years, and one just got the impression of an organisation trading on their past name. They also became too expensive for what they were imo.

Of present-day books and publishers I would heartily recommend Capital Transport who, despite their name, publish books on many aspects of public transport throughout the U.K. Their books look wonderful, are written by authors who know their onions and I say all this as someone who can't get the necessary discount from them to sell their books, so I pay full price myself to own their products!

I hope this has been of some use.
 
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I was always told that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

Most bookshop customers do, though. With over 100,000 books published p.a. you've got to try to get yours noticed! French publishers tend to publish fiction in plain covers, so you have to make more of an effort there.
 

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.... very few show characteristics of modern book cover design.....
I'd be interested if you could describe, and ideally post images of, what you consider both modern book cover design and old fashioned book cover design.
 

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Most bookshop customers do, though. With over 100,000 books published p.a. you've got to try to get yours noticed! French publishers tend to publish fiction in plain covers, so you have to make more of an effort there.

A nice railway picture usually does the trick for me. Preferably a viaduct.
 

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If you take a look at https://daverowland.smugmug.com/Platform5-Railway-Books/Platform5-Locomotives/ , you will see that the Platform 5 books seem to have (well in my view) kept with the times with regard to cover design.

Some of the early ones bring back memories.
My first one was the 1985 summer/autumn edition with the GWR green 47 on the front, bought with my pocket money.
I've had at least five since then, still got 1990, 94 and 02 somewhere.

They have kept up with the times as you say, in many ways the hobby does just that too, although there's always nostalgia involved for me and plenty of others.
 

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I'd be interested if you could describe, and ideally post images of, what you consider both modern book cover design and old fashioned book cover design.
I'd still be interested to know peoples thoughts on this.

If you take a look at https://daverowland.smugmug.com/Platform5-Railway-Books/Platform5-Locomotives/ , you will see that the Platform 5 books seem to have (well in my view) kept with the times with regard to cover design.
Interesting link :)

Just for fun (not to be taken seriously in any way), here's one I made, to the latest design:

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If anyone from Platform 5 is reading this, I hope you don't mind ;)

I actually found it really easy to do, it only took about 15 mins, however replicating the 1994-2011 design have been harder, because of the curves.
 

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It has a cab...and an engine to propel itself (and a train), what more do you want...? ;):D

They do appear in the Platform 5 locomotive books though I think.

Yorkie. It looks great but wouldn't it have a current HST livery on the cover?
 

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Haha. Well I'm just about to order one ;)
 

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I often read various railway magazines, most of which have a page or two dedicated to review recently-released railway books.

I've noticed though that many of them have a very 'old-fashioned' look to them, as if they could have been published 20-odd years ago or even before that; very few show characteristics of modern book cover design.

I'm interested to know if there's any particular reason for this?
Is it a deliberately 'vintage' design, is it because they're aimed at a particular demographic, is it simply because many of them are not that bothered about paying the money for any more complex design or is it jsut conforming to a long-standing tradition?

Please note this is not a criticism, simply an observation. Interested to hear any thoughts.

As a designer myself (though in digital publications) i understand where you are coming from on this. I think its basically down to small publishers not having the money for dedicated designers or budget for someone else to do it so someone who isn't really a designer does it.
 

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OP here, sorry for the elongated absence from the thread. I think the Platform 5 books have kept with the times, but many that are being released by some publishers still look like the 1978 example. I'll try and dig out some examples later but I think trash80 may have a point.
 
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