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Railtours with smaller engines

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YorkshireBear

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Is there any scope for railtours with the smaller steam engines, the larger tanks etc? i just think a few lines in the country could be suitable for them to operate over again on excursions and i never see them on railtours and personally i think it would be nice?

Has there been railtours with them that i have just missed?
 
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GWR Pannier Tank 9600 worked a Banbury to Princes Risborough charter on July 3rd, and another GWR Pannier, 9466, is currently doing two weekends on the Looe branch top and tailed with a class 37.

The reason small steam locos aren’t regularly used for railtours is because they lack the power to maintain the higher speeds that running on Network Rail demands whilst coping with the long and heavy carriage rakes that are necessary to ensure there are enough punters on board to cover the costs of the tour. They also only have a short range between taking on coal and water, which would require frequent stops on anything other than a short distance charter service.

9466 and 9600 are the only two tank engines registered for use on the mainline, and also the only two steam locos smaller than a 2-6-0 tender engine registered. The 2-6-0 tender locos get around a fair bit (The K1 and K4, and BR Standard 4 76079): I've seen 62005 working a Whitby to Fort William charter with the stock for the Jacobite, which is definitely a long distance working, so the smaller tender engines are obviosuly very capable machines.
 
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YorkshireBear

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i knew about the looe one but thats all i heard. Well i knew they'd have to be short journeys but im just trying to think of some, like sheffield huddersfield kinda thing is what im thinking with maybe a 2-6-4 4MT
 

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The RPSI uses LMS (NCC) 2-6-4T no 4 on railtours all over Ireland several times a year. In August alone it was out every weekend. First on the northbound leg of the Steam Enterprise from Dublin to Whitehead (southbound was hauled by 131 year old GS&WR 0-6-0 no 186), then it did two Whitehead > Belfast > Portrush weekends, and one fill in Portadown > Bangor trip.

These trips are seriously good value. The Enterprise is the dearest and is £25 return for 260 miles of steam haulage with two different locos.

http://www.steamtrainsireland.com/locomotives/loco4.htm

http://www.steamtrainsireland.com/locomotives/loco186.htm
 

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Sheffield > Barnsley > Huddersfield Tin Bath special towards end of November but usually Black 5 hauled . Part of Preston > Manchester special, see SLOA web-page!!
 

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Apart from the obvious problems of range already discussed, there is also pathing and timings to be considered. If the branch exists in passenger terms, then one part of the infrastructure, such as signalling and available junctions, are usually worked close to capacity. Fitting in a tour that is slower than the everyday operating services on the branch. If the branch has modern units in operation, it's pretty much certain that run-round facilities as well as fuelling will be pretty non-existent.

Its a nice idea, but I don't think it fits in well with the modern railway.
 

AndyJB

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Would be nice to see one or two smaller diesel classes back on the mainline too be honest - I know there are 20's still operational (with DRS) but I'm referring to the 25's/26's etc - though guess they'd have to run in multiple with something else these days.
 

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could two 25/6's not run double headed with a 47 on back like all other railtours?

Mmm, you could go one better and use Class 08s! I do believe Flamboyant Railtours were prepared to run a charter into Norfolk/Essex with a pair of 31s but due to reasons beyond their control that tour never happened, pity as I would have been amongst the first to go on it!
 

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There have been tours on the mainline involving BR Class 4MT 2-6-4 tanks, but I am unsure if any of these are currently registered for main line operation.

Bevan
 
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