Raildcard Expired - Prosecution Letter

[ravioli]

Hi all,

At the beginning of Feb, my fiance was issued a ticket after being unable to present a valid 26–30 Railcard. Unfortunately, her Railcard had expired at the beginning of November, which she genuinely hadn’t realised. As soon as the issue was pointed out by the officer on the train, she immediately renewed it.

She has held a Railcard since 2023 and has always renewed it on time—this is the first occasion she has missed the renewal. Most of these journeys were in November, when she was commuting more frequently (3+ days per week for work). Her travel reduced significantly in December, January, and February.

We have now received a Notice of Intended Prosecution. The letter gives her the opportunity to explain what happened from her perspective. Any advice on how best to approach this, or what to include in the response, would be really appreciated as she's quite anxious about the situation.

Also most (if not all) of these journeys were made using paper tickets. Would Thameslink be able to access or track her previous journey history in this case?

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[Fawkes Cat]

Hi all,

At the beginning of Feb, my fiance was issued a ticket after being unable to present a valid 26–30 Railcard. Unfortunately, her Railcard had expired at the beginning of November, which she genuinely hadn’t realised. As soon as the issue was pointed out by the officer on the train, she immediately renewed it.

She has held a Railcard since 2023 and has always renewed it on time—this is the first occasion she has missed the renewal. During the period it had expired, she travelled using discounted tickets for approximately 28 journeys (mainly commuting from Three Bridges to City Thameslink/London Bridge). Most of these journeys were in November, when she was commuting more frequently (3+ days per week for work). Her travel reduced significantly in December, January, and February.

We have now received a Notice of Intended Prosecution. The letter gives her the opportunity to explain what happened from her perspective. Any advice on how best to approach this, or what to include in the response, would be really appreciated as she's quite anxious about the situation.

Also most (if not all) of these journeys were made using paper tickets. Would Thameslink be able to access or track her previous journey history in this case?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Welcome to the forum.

It would be helpful if you could show us the letter your fiancee received (anonymised so neither we nor anyone else on the internet don't get to see personal details): GTR generally, but not invariably, only ask about the incident where they caught someone, and we find it's good advice to honestly answer the questions asked - and not volunteer information which wasn't asked for. By seeing the letter, we'll know quite what your fiancee needs to deal with.

More generally, we find that GTR (who operate the trains at Three Bridges) are generally willing to allow people to settle out of court, as long as
- they recognise they were in the wrong
- they make it convincingly clear that they won't do it again, and
- they pay the outstanding fare and the railway's costs of investigating the matter

That's because the railway doesn't want to take people to court just for the fun of it: what they're interested in is getting their money back, and an assurance that they won't have a repeat offender on their hands. So there's a good chance that your fiancee will be able to resolve this without having to go to court.

 

[ravioli]

Welcome to the forum.

It would be helpful if you could show us the letter your fiancee received (anonymised so neither we nor anyone else on the internet don't get to see personal details): GTR generally, but not invariably, only ask about the incident where they caught someone, and we find it's good advice to honestly answer the questions asked - and not volunteer information which wasn't asked for. By seeing the letter, we'll know quite what your fiancee needs to deal with.

More generally, we find that GTR (who operate the trains at Three Bridges) are generally willing to allow people to settle out of court, as long as
- they recognise they were in the wrong
- they make it convincingly clear that they won't do it again, and
- they pay the outstanding fare and the railway's costs of investigating the matter

That's because the railway doesn't want to take people to court just for the fun of it: what they're interested in is getting their money back, and an assurance that they won't have a repeat offender on their hands. So there's a good chance that your fiancee will be able to resolve this without having to go to court.

Thanks for the quick response. Attached are the photos of the anonymised letter.

So in terms of what to include in the letter is there any evidence I would need to include e.g previous railcards, proof she immediately renewed etc or do these things just need to be stated?

 

[Fawkes Cat]

Thanks for the quick response. Attached are the photos of the anonymised letter.

So in terms of what to include in the letter is there any evidence I would need to include e.g previous railcards, proof she immediately renewed etc or do these things just need to be stated?

The letter only asks about this time, so that's all that your fiancee needs to talk about (although don't say anything that could be read as suggesting that this has never happened before - the railway might doubt your fiancee's honesty if they said something that could be shown not to be true). It's certainly worth mentioning that she now has a new railcard and showing evidence of it: a picture of the railcard would be good or quoting its reference number is probably enough. And as the railway don't want your fiancee making the same mistake in future, it would be good if she could confirm to the railway that she's made a note in her diary (probably on her phone) about when the railcard runs out so that she'll renew it at the right time (or if she goes over the age limit for a renewal, she'll at least know to stop using the current railcard).

If you/your fiancee want to draft up what you want to say, we're happy to look things over before you send them off.

 

[John R]

If she has bought paper tickets from a station ticket office or machine then it's very unlikely they will be included in any retrospective investigation. If they were bought online and collected at a station then they would be identified, assuming the same ticketing provider was used as on the day she was stopped.

And if the ticket was bought from a ticket office or machine on the day she was stopped then there will be no ticketing account for them to research.

 

[ravioli]

The letter only asks about this time, so that's all that your fiancee needs to talk about (although don't say anything that could be read as suggesting that this has never happened before - the railway might doubt your fiancee's honesty if they said something that could be shown not to be true). It's certainly worth mentioning that she now has a new railcard and showing evidence of it: a picture of the railcard would be good or quoting its reference number is probably enough. And as the railway don't want your fiancee making the same mistake in future, it would be good if she could confirm to the railway that she's made a note in her diary (probably on her phone) about when the railcard runs out so that she'll renew it at the right time (or if she goes over the age limit for a renewal, she'll at least know to stop using the current railcard).

If you/your fiancee want to draft up what you want to say, we're happy to look things over before you send them off.

Ah okay thanks for the advice, I have typed up a letter.

 

[Fawkes Cat]

Ah okay thanks for the advice, I have typed this up:

I am writing in response to your letter regarding the incident on 5 February 2026 at Gatwick Airport station.

On that date, I was travelling using a ticket with a 26–30 Railcard discount, but I was unable to present a valid Railcard when requested. I sincerely apologise for this and fully understand that it is my responsibility to ensure I hold a valid Railcard when travelling with a discounted ticket.

My Railcard had expired prior to this journey, and I had not realised this at the time. As soon as the matter was brought to my attention by your Revenue Protection Officer, I renewed my Railcard immediately. My current valid Railcard details are as follows: XXXXXX

I appreciate the importance of paying the correct fare and take this matter seriously. To ensure this does not happen again, I have now set a reminder in my calendar for the expiry date so that I will renew it in good time in future.

I would be very grateful if you would consider allowing me to resolve this matter without the need for court proceedings. I am more than willing to pay any outstanding fares and any reasonable administrative costs required to settle this.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

I think that's likely to successfully head off a prosecution, and get an out of court settlement. Our general advice is to send a typed response rather than writing by hand on the letter - typing is much easier to read! Make sure that something like 'please see attached' is written in the response box, and the typed answer carries your fiancee's name and address, and the GTR case reference - just in case it gets separated from the letter. Keep a copy of everything that has been sent just in case something goes wrong - and it might be worth paying for tracked delivery so that you know that it got to the railway.

 

[ravioli]

If she has bought paper tickets from a station ticket office or machine then it's very unlikely they will be included in any retrospective investigation. If they were bought online and collected at a station then they would be identified, assuming the same ticketing provider was used as on the day she was stopped.

And if the ticket was bought from a ticket office or machine on the day she was stopped then there will be no ticketing account for them to research.

Okay thank you for the info!

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I think that's likely to successfully head off a prosecution, and get an out of court settlement. Our general advice is to send a typed response rather than writing by hand on the letter - typing is much easier to read! Make sure that something like 'please see attached' is written in the response box, and the typed answer carries your fiancee's name and address, and the GTR case reference - just in case it gets separated from the letter. Keep a copy of everything that has been sent just in case something goes wrong - and it might be worth paying for tracked delivery so that you know that it got to the railway.

Thank you - how would a typed reponse work? Sounds like a silly question but would I just need to print off a separate doc and put it into the letter to send back?

 

[SECR 65]

Thank you - how would a typed reponse work? Sounds like a silly question but would I just need to print off a separate doc and put it into the letter to send back?

Yes - paste your letter into a Word document or similar then print it off and include it separately in the letter of response.

Make sure that something like 'please see attached' is written in the response box,

Write this on the original letter in the reply space provided

and the typed answer carries your fiancee's name and address, and the GTR case reference

Put this at the top of the separate typed document.

 

[ravioli]

Yes - paste your letter into a Word document or similar then print it off and include it separately in the letter of response.

Write this on the original letter in the reply space provided

Put this at the top of the separate typed document.

Great, thanks for your help.

 

[WesternLancer]

Great, thanks for your help.

My view is you should definitely send it tracked postage (Tracked 48 is cheapest) from a post office - it's really important that you can be certain they have received it and keep proof of that from the tracking in case you ever need it.

It will be (should be) straightforward to avoid court action using the advice above and your proposed letter - but the cases we do see court action on are where they have not received (or list internally...) the replies people have actually sent them - and it's then a lot more hassle to untangle.

Keep a copy of every page you send them (a photo or scan of the hard copies as completed will suffice) too.

Given this is theoretically the start of a process that could lead to a court prosecution it's vital you do not leave anything to chance in my view.