RJ
Established Member
Coordination for rail replacement does sort of happen. The District Line and London Overground services are merged when the Richmond branch is shut, with a service between Richmond and Willesden Junction via Turnham Green and South Acton.
One of the more unusual ones I've found is the Metropolitan Line - Rickmansworth to Amersham all stops replacement bus services run when Chiltern is fully operating! But there's a reason for everything.
There's the ELLX - Go Ahead operate the buses between New Cross Gate and West Croydon via Crystal Palace. TfL did operate the buses once or twice in the past from New Cross Gate to Crystal Palace and onto Anerley for operational convenience, but that doesn't happen anymore. The Go-Ahead service is tightly timed and all the stops are close to the stations. The TfL service had generous running times (which were observed, lots of long waits at bus stops) and the risk assessment meant buses stopped quite some distance from Honor Oak Park station. The decision to stop the buses at Anerley was because local buses run between there and West Croydon, much to the ire of a lot of passengers.
South London Line - TfL operate a Clapham Junction to Canada Water service, with Go-Ahead operating between London Bridge and Tulse Hill. Two separate operations, quite a bit of overlap.
Another area that stands out for duplication is between Epsom and Dorking - Southern and SWR each procure their own buses.
Will be interesting to see what happens for local replacement services between Paddington and Reading. In the past either TfL or GWR have operated buses, but not both at once as far as I know. I recall driving a TfL operated bus from Ealing Broadway to Slough - 8.9 metre single door vehicles were put out and it was taking the best part of 2 hours to get from end to end - and that was without getting lost. When GWR operate the service on this line I recall they run multiple routes - single deckers Ealing Broadway to Slough and double deck relief buses between Ealing Broadway and Hayes.
In the case of the ELL and GWML replacement service I don't know how it gets decided whether TfL or a TOC sorts the bus service.
One of the more unusual ones I've found is the Metropolitan Line - Rickmansworth to Amersham all stops replacement bus services run when Chiltern is fully operating! But there's a reason for everything.
There's the ELLX - Go Ahead operate the buses between New Cross Gate and West Croydon via Crystal Palace. TfL did operate the buses once or twice in the past from New Cross Gate to Crystal Palace and onto Anerley for operational convenience, but that doesn't happen anymore. The Go-Ahead service is tightly timed and all the stops are close to the stations. The TfL service had generous running times (which were observed, lots of long waits at bus stops) and the risk assessment meant buses stopped quite some distance from Honor Oak Park station. The decision to stop the buses at Anerley was because local buses run between there and West Croydon, much to the ire of a lot of passengers.
South London Line - TfL operate a Clapham Junction to Canada Water service, with Go-Ahead operating between London Bridge and Tulse Hill. Two separate operations, quite a bit of overlap.
Another area that stands out for duplication is between Epsom and Dorking - Southern and SWR each procure their own buses.
Will be interesting to see what happens for local replacement services between Paddington and Reading. In the past either TfL or GWR have operated buses, but not both at once as far as I know. I recall driving a TfL operated bus from Ealing Broadway to Slough - 8.9 metre single door vehicles were put out and it was taking the best part of 2 hours to get from end to end - and that was without getting lost. When GWR operate the service on this line I recall they run multiple routes - single deckers Ealing Broadway to Slough and double deck relief buses between Ealing Broadway and Hayes.
In the case of the ELL and GWML replacement service I don't know how it gets decided whether TfL or a TOC sorts the bus service.