Kneedown
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Speaking as a Driver who's had two fatalities, as well as seeing and clearing up too many broken bodies in my previous career, i can only say that if you play with fire, you get burned.
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Stupid tragic waste. Anyone who is 16 is old enough to know better, but come on have a bit of sympathy instead of going on a rant
Sympathy for what?
A young lad died, yes fair enough - but he was drunk, on a railway line and probabally in no condition to make 'calculated risks'. Nobody ever learns from the mistakes of others in these situations - remember:
Don't run the risk
FusionRail
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How is it the parents fault? You can be brought up in any way and still go and do something you were told not to. Its the human mind.
I feel for the poor guy...
But for all the people who don't, and think it is his fault...
from now on:
Anyone who drinks alcohol excessively and goes over his/her daily/weekly allowance of alcohol, and they die of alcohol related disease - their fault.
Anyone who doesn't watch their daily intake of saturated fats etc, and dies from heart disease - their fault.
What about the poor little kids that get run over walking home from school because they didn't look twice?? Is that their fault too??
But for all the people who don't, and think it is his fault...
from now on:
Anyone who drinks alcohol excessively and goes over his/her daily/weekly allowance of alcohol, and they die of alcohol related disease - their fault.
Anyone who doesn't watch their daily intake of saturated fats etc, and dies from heart disease - their fault.
What about the poor little kids that get run over walking home from school because they didn't look twice?? Is that their fault too??
Dennis
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From now on???? Those statements have always been true although in recent years the publics awareness has increased through seemingly endless campaigns.
The little kids one is slightly debatable - I was being taught how to cross the road from a very early age and certainly by the time I was five or six I knew how to cross safely. If I chose to ignore what I had been taught then yes, my fault if I got run over.
I don't know if something like the 'green cross code' is still taught in schools or not; I expect they spend the time teaching French instead. So it's up to parents, peers, guardians and the government to educate chidren about lifes risks - if they don't learn then they will face the consequences later in life.
On this subject - why do so many older children / students treat road traffic with such a lack of respect, the warning signs near schools should be changed from the rather orderly looking two people crossing the road to a mindless blurt who thinks it's funny to deliberately jump out in front of a moving vehicle.
90019
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Yes.
Debatable. If they know how to cross a road and know what ould happen if they don't, but choose to ignore that, then yes, it is their fault, however, if it's because they didnt see something coming and walked out in front of it then no, that's just an accident.
jagardner1984
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Whilst I take most of the points made here onboard, I do wonder what more can be done to prevent such tragedies. If clear signage, considerable advertising, fencing, slots on Prime Time TV shows is not enough, what is ? Whilst I am of course sympathetic to the mother, as I think any human would be, I find it impossible to believe the "kid" had not come into contact with any of that material, so I find her comment of needing to "make the kids aware" somewhat disingenuous.
There is a parallel here with our various anti-terrorist measures (the ONLY parallel). Ultimately we can have as many anti-terrorist measures (extra police, take your shoes off at security, no tubes of 100ml toothpaste on planes) as you like, but if someone really wants to blow you up, ultimately they will find a way.
Similarly, as much as you spend millions on advertising that standing on live rail lines is not great for your health, if someone wants to go on the line, they will.
There is a parallel here with our various anti-terrorist measures (the ONLY parallel). Ultimately we can have as many anti-terrorist measures (extra police, take your shoes off at security, no tubes of 100ml toothpaste on planes) as you like, but if someone really wants to blow you up, ultimately they will find a way.
Similarly, as much as you spend millions on advertising that standing on live rail lines is not great for your health, if someone wants to go on the line, they will.
What a stupid post! Of course anyone that drinks excessivly or eats nothing but crap only have themselves to blame, who elses fault would it be:roll:
As for little kids getting run over because they didnt look twice, well there is a strong difference between that and tresspassing and we are not talking about "little kids" anyway.
It time people started taking responsabilty for their actions and not palming the blame of to others when the "£$% hits the fan!
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