Question from a language translator.

[albertd]

I have been asked the following by my translator friend in France

Would you happen to know what the official term is when a train goes along a track in the opposite direction to normal (intentionally).

I assume that this might happen when a line is under maintenance and part of it is closed.

Suggestions please?

 

[ComUtoR]

Wrong Direction movement or Single Line working depending on the situation.

 

[Minilad]

Single line working in the wrong direction

 

[albertd]

Thanks, I have fed those two back, along with a request for a bit of context.
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Any alternative suggestions from anybody perhaps?

 

[EM2]

The slang term used is 'running bang road'.

 

[83G/84D]

The slang term used is 'running bang road'.

And don't forget any catch points!

http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/st-erth-to-redruth.html

Scroll down to the pictures just after Hayle signal box for the consequences of not doing so.

 

[pitdiver]

The slang term used is 'running bang road'.

I can imagine a translator trying to convert that into French!

 

[albertd]

I can imagine a translator trying to convert that into French!

Thankfully, he doesn't have to! He translates the other way.

The original French word was "Contresens" which literally means something like contradirection, but contraflow didn't work because it only (we think) refers to roads.

 

[30907]

It may not always be single line working though.

There are sections of track that are signalled for either way working (much more common in mainland Europe, and the French I think is banalisation) but there is a preferred direction of working (shown with double arrow on Trackmaps).

How would you describe that?

Contresens (just seen latest post) could cover that.

 

[Delta558]

We've a few sections that are signalled like that - 'bi-directional working' is the phrase used.

 

[andrewkeith5]

We've a few sections that are signalled like that - 'bi-directional working' is the phrase used.

Indeed - we'd refer to the line as compatible with or signalled for 'bi-directional working' but I don't think there is a specific term to define that it normally has a preferred direction, I can't think of any examples that aren't single lines that don't have a preferred direction so there would be no need to specify.

 

[83G/84D]

Seeing that the OP stated opposite direction to normal can bi-directional lines be included? I know the lines will be designated (possibly) up or down like the sea wall section at Dawlish but technically there is no normal direction as the line can be used either way.


One of the lines between Exeter St David's and Exeter Central is the up & down reversible.


Or am I just being picky?

 

[albertd]

Thanks folks. I have not had any further context information, but he has come back to me and said that "wrong direction movement" sounds fine to him and that he has now come across the term somewhere else which seems to confirm it.

He is quite remarkable in the things he manages to cope with translating, including all sorts of complicated legal stuff as well as technical things like this. He rarely seems to need to ask about things, but when he does there is usually somebody out in the world who knows the answer.

 

[hairyhandedfool]

From what I remember of the Rulebook (it's been ten years so I might be a little off), Wrong Direction Movements are where there are no permanent controlling signals and authourity has to be gained from the Signaller (or a Handsignaller acting on his instructions) or a Pilotman, so things like SIMBIDS wouldn't be a wrong direction move.

 

[CC 72100]

He is quite remarkable in the things he manages to cope with translating, including all sorts of complicated legal stuff as well as technical things like this. He rarely seems to need to ask about things, but when he does there is usually somebody out in the world who knows the answer.

That's the bonus of a good translation memory and glossary/term bases. A lot of the more specialist vocabulary in technical or legal domains will be in there, so as to ensure the 'same' translation each time.

Of course, with all good memories and term bases they have to be kept up to date through client feedback and new additions from translators as they find it.

 

[Myb]

There are sections of track that are signalled for either way working (much more common in mainland Europe, and the French I think is banalisation) but there is a preferred direction of working (shown with double arrow on Trackmaps).

How would you describe that?

Contresens (just seen latest post) could cover that.

To be precise (or pedantic !), there is either IPCS (Installations Permanentes de Contre-sens) which would entail a simplified signalling (with longer headways) in the 'wrong' direction and "banalisation" which would entail full signalling in both directions.