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NSEWonderer
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Saw this video on tiktok of it leaving Nuneaton interesting that the BIL light went off just as it first moved off putting the brakes on. I assume a passcom or egress test.
Peter Sarf
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Delivery to Old Oak Common scheduled for Friday (31/07/2026)
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K02565/2026-07-31/detailed
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Delivery(if that is what it is) to Old Oak Common Depot from Derby LL has departed on time.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K02565/2026-07-31/detailed
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Delivery(if that is what it is) to Old Oak Common Depot from Derby LL has departed on time.
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That is showing no reports and was auto activated.
Showing as cancelled.
Peter Sarf
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Apologies. I must have read the Realtime column as actual times this morning. Luckily I have it still open and the times are there BUT I can see not in bold. Re opening it now shows cancelled of course. I first saw that change to cancelled after about 12 midday on my mobile while I was out. Which is over three hours after it should have run. Think I have learnt something new (or need glasses).
1D54
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Any idea of time?
yorkshirerail
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Non runner cancelled due to safety checks
Also been made aware it should actually of been 345073.
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345072 Derby to Old Oak
Edit - Should of stated this move was today, Monday 17th August.
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1D54
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Today?
yorkshirerail
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Yes dragged by 37800 on 5V73
1D54
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Thanks Yorkshirerail, not via the MML so didn't miss it.
Yes, I've amended my post to clarify.
Peter Mugridge
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Which one? 345 072 or 345 073? I am guessing the latter if it's just a second attempt at the earlier run?
345072 as per post 101.
Peter Mugridge
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Thank you. 
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345072 due up WCML tomorrow. 0915 5N40 Wembley - Crewe , 1255 5N41 return
Peter Sarf
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I find it strange that a 345 gets delivered to Old Oak from Derby and is then, only two days later, planned for a test run up the WCML to & from Crewe. After all Crewe is so much closer to Derby than Old Oak is so why not take it straight from Derby to Crewe ?.
Because the staff to do the testing will most likely be Wembley or Old Oak based, also most likely had some acceptance checks completed at Old Oak.
Peter Sarf
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I can only imagine dragging the unit to London is cheaper than sending the staff to Crewe ?.
(I know I always preferred a day out !).
As above it most likely needs acceptance checks at Old Oak before they send it out on tests.
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Isn't the point to get miles in for testing, not to actually get it to Crewe as fast as possible?
Peter Sarf
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Yes. But they could start clocking the miles up starting at Crewe instead of paying to drag it to London first.
I wonder if those acceptance tests have to be done at Old Oak Common depot ?.
RUK
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Alstom’s press release says:
First of Alstom’s ten new Elizabeth line Aventra trains rolls off the production line in Derby, UK
No. 345071 moves from the manufacturing line at Derby Litchurch Lane Works to the site’s Test Track
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Could? Maybe. But they've clearly decided taking the units to London is a better bet.
Old Oak makes sense as that is the depot with the most detailed knowledge of the 345s.
Many thanks RUKAlstom’s press release says:
So by the end of 2027.First of Alstom’s ten new Elizabeth line Aventra trains rolls off the production line in Derby, UK
No. 345071 moves from the manufacturing line at Derby Litchurch Lane Works to the site’s Test Trackwww.alstom.com
RUK
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I feel like they’re making them quite quickly, if they’re close to testing the second and third units out of 10, and this order is meant to be tiding them over until they start building the trains for HS2 as they said, if the HS2 trains don’t need to be in service for a decade from now. Their original request was for a minimum order of 5 units, and they got an order for 10. Will they have to go back to the Government begging for another emergency order to keep the factory open before then again? Perhaps the 3 more options for trains on the original Crossrail contract of 13 optional orders, which haven’t yet been ordered? There’s no guarantee that they’ll win the forthcoming Southeastern or ScotRail tenders which are the closest to being awarded from now, and they haven’t won any bi-mode tenders before now for the other possible tenders, which don’t have any news of being close to awarded yet (Northern, GWR, TransPennine Express, Chiltern, possibly TfW, maybe SWR).
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