Problems reading RailUK Fares & Ticketing Guide - Section 3 - Routeing

[Quebec]

I'm trying to read sections in the following forum:

RailUK Fares & Ticketing Guide - Section 3 - Routeing​

However when I click on any of the links I get taken to a page headed:

Upgrade system login​

Is the information accessible another way?

 

[trei2k]

I get the same issue. I wonder if a forum software update has rendered some of the links inoperable at some point?

For others trying to replicate the issue: Section 3 - Routing: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/railuk-fares-ticketing-guide-section-3-routeing.70716/

Click on any of the links, for example in 3.1.3 When to consult the Routeing Guide, there is a link to 'through trains' that takes users to the login page:

 

[bcarmicle]

Is the information accessible another way?

You can just scroll down the page; all the links are meant to go to other posts in the thread (but yes, they do appear to be broken).

 

[_toommm_]

I'm trying to read sections in the following forum:

RailUK Fares & Ticketing Guide - Section 3 - Routeing​

However when I click on any of the links I get taken to a page headed:

Upgrade system login​

Is the information accessible another way?

Is there a particular part you'd like for me to copy and paste into here? The sections are:

• 3.1 Introduction to routeing
• 3.2 Through trains
• 3.3 Shortest route
• 3.4 Routes shown in the National Routeing Guide
• 3.5 Doubling back
• 3.6 Tickets routed via stations that are not on a permitted route
• 3.7 Group Stations (as an origin/destination)
• 3.8 Inter-available origins & destinations
• 3.9 Routes permitted by easements
• 3.10 Routes prohibited by negative easements
• 3.11 Engineering work
• 3.12 Routeing Group Station rule
• 3.13 Other rules affecting routeing
• 3.14 Tickets that booking sites won't sell
• 3.15 Routes permitted by booking engines
• 3.16 Routes validated by National Rail journey planner

 

[peterblue]

Railforums changed forum provider a few years ago, so some very old links are now defunct

 

[Quebec]

Thanks for the offer!

The question relates to travel from Keynsham to Paddington next Sunday (31st). I'm trying to confirm whether doubling back via Bristol TM is pemitted, where this gives a faster journey than changing at Bath.

I therefore wanted to check whether Keynsham is in the Bristol area stations group.

 

[peterblue]

Thanks for the offer!

The question relates to travel from Keynsham to Paddington next Sunday (31st). I'm trying to confirm whether doubling back via Bristol TM is pemitted, where this gives a faster journey than changing at Bath.

I therefore wanted to check whether Keynsham is in the Bristol area stations group.

Keynsham is in the Bristol group (and Bath as well)

 

[Benjwri]

Keynsham is in the Bristol group (and Bath as well)

It isn’t. Bristol Group is a valid routeing point for an Any Permitted Keynsham to London ticket, but it isn’t actually a part of the Bristol group, which is as follows:

Ashley Down

Bristol Parkway

Bristol Temple Meads

Filton Abbeywood

Lawrence Hill

Stapleton Road

Regarding this specific journey I probably get an itinerary when booking the tickets. Most sites that let you specify via points will let you buy with an itinerary for a double back via Bristol, the forum site does, and that is all you need with the new NRCOT.

 

[Quebec]

Thanks for the response.
The journey in question is the return on an open ticket, so there won't be an itinerary. Although if Bristol TM is a valid routing point for Keynsham to PAD it shouldn't matter?

 

[peterblue]

It isn’t. Bristol Group is a valid routeing point for an Any Permitted Keynsham to London ticket, but it isn’t actually a part of the Bristol group, which is as follows:


Regarding this specific journey I probably get an itinerary when booking the tickets. Most sites that let you specify via points will let you buy with an itinerary for a double back via Bristol, the forum site does, and that is all you need with the new NRCOT.

Sorry, that is what I meant - the routeing points (pink pages) list Bristol and Bath as routeing points for Keynsham.

 

[Adam Williams]

Links of the form https://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1192127 no longer work, but merely need to be rewritten to

https://www.railforums.co.uk/posts/1192127

Something like

RewriteEngine On

RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ^p=([0-9]+)$
RewriteRule ^showpost\.php$ /posts/%1? [R=301,L]

Would make all of the old links work transparently, without needing to edit the messages