priv rate

[badassunicorn]

How can you get priv discount if the ticket office is closed? Would a permit to travel be allowable?

 

[hairyhandedfool]

Priv pass holders are advised by ATOC to board the train and buy a Priv rate ticket from the guard (or other first opportunity to do so).

 

[furlong]

Priv pass holders are advised by ATOC to board the train and buy a Priv rate ticket from the guard (or other first opportunity to do so).

And, importantly, someone with staff travel facilities who doesn't actively seek out that first opportunity might find themselves on the wrong side of a reported travel irregularity.
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Would a permit to travel be allowable?

If there is a working permit to travel machine you should use it.

 

[yorkie]

What TOC(s) would you be travelling with?

 

[RJ]

How can you get priv discount if the ticket office is closed? Would a permit to travel be allowable?

Condition 3 of the NRCoC applies - if you can, buy a ticket to cover part of your journey then exchange for a Priv ticket at the first opportunity. There are some very strange people out there who enjoy withdrawing Privs from other railway staff so make sure you cover yourself.

 

[hairyhandedfool]

Looking at ATOC's "Where Can I Go?" pdf, I should adjust my comments accordingly.

Privilege Travel in general: How to buy a Priv ticket, and what to do if this is not possible

Just as for the general public, you must have a valid ticket before you start a journey.

If you wish to travel using a privilege rate (Q-rate) ticket, you must buy that ticket from a ticket office.
At present it is not possible to buy them online, by phone, or from ticket machines.

If the ticket office is closed and it is therefore not possible to purchase the privilege rate ticket to which
you are entitled, there are two option, depending on the station at which your journey commences:

1. If the station is in a Penalty Fare Zone (this will be clearly indicated by posters) then you must
buy a Permit to Travel from a PERTIS machine. The fee/fare paid at the machine will then be
deducted from the eventual privilege rate fare that you pay either on the train or at your
destination.

2. If the station is not in a Penalty Fare Zone, you must have your fare ready and offer to pay it at
the first available opportunity: on entry to the platform, on the train, or when exiting at your
destination. By doing so, ie offering to pay, there can be no question that you are trying to travel
without paying. If you don’t offer to pay, then you could be accused of fare avoidance.

 

[TTI]

"If you wish to travel using a privilege rate (Q-rate) ticket, you must buy that ticket from a ticket office.
At present it is not possible to buy them online, by phone, or from ticket machines."

Scotrail telesales do PRIV over the phone for PRIV sleeper singles;
DB Rail? do PRIV over the phone for PRIV Eurostar tickets

 

[trc666]

"If the station is in a Penalty Fare Zone (this will be clearly indicated by posters) then you must buy a Permit to Travel from a PERTIS machine. The fee/fare paid at the machine will then be deducted from the eventual privilege rate fare that you pay either on the train or at your destination."

There are quite a few London Overground stations that are unmanned (or only have part time ticket offices) which have TVMs but not PERTIS machines despite being Penalty Fares stations.

 

[Mojo]

There are quite a few London Overground stations that are unmanned (or only have part time ticket offices) which have TVMs but not PERTIS machines despite being Penalty Fares stations.

All Overground stations have staff, or security, rostered during traffic hours, but yes, they mostly have part-time booking offices.

It is not just Overground stations though; many Tocs do not have Pertis machines on their stations even where they charge Penalty fares.

 

[Sammy h]

I didn't even know you could get PRIV Eurostar tickets?

 

[hairyhandedfool]

You need an FIP pass for Eurostar, but it is quite a good discount (and yes it is DB Bahn who issue them and other European tickets).

 

[badassunicorn]

It was a southern station, but the ticket office was open thank god!