Pretendolino out again

[sprinterguy]

Does it have 1st class when on WM diagram?

Yes it does

 

[Geezertronic]

I know, what idiot thought that bringing faster, reliable and more frequent trains was a good idea. :roll:

That'll be Branson's fault, everything else seems to be his fault depending on who is typing

 

[dk1]

Yes it does

Thankyou

 

[Simon Poole]

any chance that it will be running this week?

 

[oliverj8]

Anyone know if it is out tomorrow?

Thanks in advance,

 

[CCF23]

So is the a daily diagram (MON-FRI only) i take it and how long is it expected to last for ? thanks

 

[matt]

So is the a daily diagram (MON-FRI only) i take it and how long is it expected to last for ? thanks

Only running the Fridays only to Preston at the moment. Has not worked anything else this week.

 

[andy13]

why didnt virgin just do this in 2002 instead of wasting money on horrible stinking cramped voyager and pendolinos, isnt this just the obvious choice to refurb a perfectly working fleet of mk3s?

why fix something that isnt broke????

 

[MCR247]

Well, there is the minor reasons that the WCML would probably not have 1/3 of the passengers it had today, journey times would put people off, however much you refurb a mark 3, you can still tell its pretty old (doors, droplights), we couldn't have had VHF and in general like it or not, Pendolinos have brought lots of improvements to the WCML.

 

[jopsuk]

It also allowed the best of the sets to be cascaded elsewhere (Great Eastern Main Line) where their limited top speed wouldn't be an, um, limitation.

 

[87015]

Well, there is the minor reasons that the WCML would probably not have 1/3 of the passengers it had today, journey times would put people off, however much you refurb a mark 3, you can still tell its pretty old (doors, droplights), we couldn't have had VHF and in general like it or not, Pendolinos have brought lots of improvements to the WCML.

So nowhere with old trains has had massive passenger increases? I think not. Its far more he infrastructure that needed to be brought up to scratch, shame it took so long to do so little though.

 

[Geezertronic]

I think it's fair to say that you wouldn't get the VHF service with the Mk3 stock as the number of available paths would decrease (based on 110mph running). Even the 390s loose time when they run at 110mph when tilt is not enabled

 

[WatcherZero]

Saw a Pendolino go through Wigan North Western yesterday, very odd livery, rather than usual silver it was white as the driven snow. Roof also wasnt red though it did have the Virgin logo on the side of the driving train and red/yellow frontage. Was I seeing things in high midday sun?

 

[MCR247]

Probably the Alstom livery?
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So nowhere with old trains has had massive passenger increases? I think not. Its far more he infrastructure that needed to be brought up to scratch, shame it took so long to do so little though.

No, but I think I would be right in saying that VHF has brought passenger increases to routes such as London - Manchester/Birmingham and Glasgow

 

[Geezertronic]

Saw a Pendolino go through Wigan North Western yesterday, very odd livery, rather than usual silver it was white as the driven snow. Roof also wasnt red though it did have the Virgin logo on the side of the driving train and red/yellow frontage. Was I seeing things in high midday sun?

Like this?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1049/5151279961_6ef01c9254_z.jpg

It's 390 004

 

[ainsworth74]

Saw a Pendolino go through Wigan North Western yesterday, very odd livery

Could it have been this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonedome/5151279961/

That's the only pendo that I can think of running around in an unusual livery.

Edit: Never mind geezertronic got there first!

 

[WatcherZero]

No, didnt have any black, was solid white apart from Virgin logo.

Maybe it was the light but im used to seeing ones like this:

Whereas it appeared more like this model

Red top I might have missed because of angle viewing it pass on viaduct above.

 

[MCR247]

But that model is the same as a normal carriage?

 

[jopsuk]

Was it just the angle of the sun? That model is silver-bodied. Just like the real train.

 

[WatcherZero]

Perhaps I see it different to you but the above is silver bodied with white stripes on the door while the model is white bodied with silver stripes on the door.

 

[90019]

Perhaps I see it different to you but the above is silver bodied with white stripes on the door while the model is white bodied with silver stripes on the door.

They're the same, it's just different light.