Preserved class 60s.

[Cowley]

I presume you're referring to the photo of the aperture for the engine room doors, located midway along the bodyside. No cutting of the bodyshell required.

Oh ok. When I looked at the photo I thought it looked a bit rough around the edges to be the doors. I’m not that familiar with the layout of a class 60.

 

[sprinterguy]

Oh ok. When I looked at the photo I thought it looked a bit rough around the edges to be the doors. I’m not that familiar with the layout of a class 60.

To be fair, I did gain the impression, perhaps incorrectly, from photos of the loco in store that damage was done around the engine room doors on that pictured side of that loco, as it gained a replacement door in grey and the adjacent area of the bodyside looked fairly 'dinged up'.

In fact looking again there does appear to be a patched section of bodyshell low down to the left of the door opening, which tallies with the area that looked to have suffered damage in earlier photos of the loco in store (apologies for the misunderstanding if it was this smaller area you were referring to).

 

[Cowley]

To be fair, I did gain the impression, perhaps incorrectly, from photos of the loco in store that damage was done around the engine room doors on that pictured side of that loco, as it gained a replacement door in grey and the adjacent area of the bodyside looked fairly 'dinged up'.

In fact looking again there does appear to be a patched section of bodyshell low down to the left of the door opening, which tallies with the area that looked to have suffered damage in earlier photos of the loco in store (apologies for the misunderstanding if it was this smaller area you were referring to).

No I’m sure you’re probably right. I think I thought the damage was more widespread than that. Thanks for the extra info.

 

[DGH 1]

Gut the insides, install some batteries and a sound system to play artificial thrash. Sorted

Haha, Sounds good to me.

 

[aem7ac]

Anything about 60050 and 60086? Are they planned to return to Wensleydale or are they up for the cutting torch at Shires Storage (if they do such services there)?

 

[sprinterguy]

Anything about 60050 and 60086? Are they planned to return to Wensleydale or are they up for the cutting torch at Shires Storage (if they do such services there)?

Neither, I'd imagine: The locos are privately owned, I believe they moved from the Wensleydale as part of a clear out of non-essential stock, the railway is unlikely to want them back in their current condition, and presumably the owner still has aspirations of restoration (starting with 60086, I believe: I could admittedly envisage 60050 becoming a spares donor).

 

[D365]

It was the GEC alternator control cards, from memory. There were only 10 GEC alternators used in the Class 37 HGR programme, so they weren’t common to start with.

Unless I’m mistaken, the only ’GEC’ refurbished 37 still in mainline operation is 37800 for ROG.

 

[43096]

Unless I’m mistaken, the only ’GEC’ refurbished 37 still in mainline operation is 37800 for ROG.

Correct. The only locos to use it were 37796-803 and RK270-engined 37905/6.

 

[ExRes]

A couple of pictures on Class 60 Group facebook of a very shiny 60081 being loaded onto an Allelys trailer

 

[Mountain Man]

I don't see preservationists having much luck dealing with 30+ year old microprocessors. There might be some way to 'hack' a 60 to work in some sort of brainless low-tech manor like an earlier diesel locomotive, but I doubt it somehow.

The 58s in preservation don't appear to be progressing much, and I'm taking that as a yardstick for any future attempts at Class 60 preservation.

Given people can make all sorts of old tech work using emulation technology, I think you are over stating the complexity. The challenge will be money as always

 

[12LDA28C]

Given people can make all sorts of old tech work using emulation technology, I think you are over stating the complexity. The challenge will be money as always

Money and manpower. Some preservation groups only have a small number of members and an even smaller number of volunteers who are prepared (and have the time) to get their hands dirty.

 

[D365]

Money and manpower. Some preservation groups only have a small number of members and an even smaller number of volunteers who are prepared (and have the time) to get their hands dirty.

To add to the above - very few people who know a Class 60 inside and out, and would be prepared/able to give up time to support a volunteer movement.

 

[ExRes]

Anything about 60050 and 60086? Are they planned to return to Wensleydale or are they up for the cutting torch at Shires Storage (if they do such services there)?

Some pictures of 050 & 086 on WNXX today, dated 2nd May they both appear to be untouched, still sitting on track panels at Kinsley with 37503

 

[Harvester]

Purely out of interest, who owns derelict 60060 which has been dumped alongside the mainline at Leicester for some time?

 

[156444]

Purely out of interest, who owns derelict 60060 which has been dumped alongside the mainline at Leicester for some time?

DCR, for spares

 

[ExRes]

Reported on WNXX this evening that arrangements are being made 'for the disposal of 60050 & 60086' from storage at Kinsley, their power units have already been craned out and removed from the site

 

[Loadhaul60059]

That's interesting. The plans for them must have changed as I'm sure they were shown as 'Preserved' on WNXX.

Glad I made the effort to travel there last year as 60050 was the last one I needed to see.

 

[D1537]

That's interesting. The plans for them must have changed as I'm sure they were shown as 'Preserved' on WNXX.

AFAIK the original plan was for 60050 to be the spares donor for "preserved" 60086. 60050 was incomplete anyway, having given up some parts at Toton.

 

[37114]

AFAIK the original plan was for 60050 to be the spares donor for "preserved" 60086. 60050 was incomplete anyway, having given up some parts at Toton.

I think 60086 was also in part preferred as it was the last loco to work a train on the Remire line where it was originally preserved

 

[Loadhaul60059]

AFAIK the original plan was for 60050 to be the spares donor for "preserved" 60086. 60050 was incomplete anyway, having given up some parts at Toton.

Ah I see, thanks for that.

Can see quite a few of the derelict ones being scrapped now. Plenty of the more recently used DB and GBRf ones to go around if you want to use or preserve one in a better condition.

 

[D1537]

Ah I see, thanks for that.

Can see quite a few of the derelict ones being scrapped now. Plenty of the more recently used DB and GBRf ones to go around if you want to use or preserve one in a better condition.

Indeed. And preserving a 60 is a massive undertaking, given the complexity of the machines, especially the electronics. We're not talking preserving a 1960s diesel here.

 

[D365]

Indeed. And preserving a 60 is a massive undertaking, given the complexity of the machines, especially the electronics. We're not talking preserving a 1960s diesel here.

And considering that the owner of 60050 / 086 is more commonly known for his ownership of Class 37s, I was struggling to see what the end goal would be for his 60s.

 

[Richard Scott]

And considering that the owner of 60050 / 086 is more commonly known for his ownership of Class 37s, I was struggling to see what the end goal would be for his 60s.

Would that be someone who has bought and sold many 37s?

 

[D365]

Would that be someone who has bought and sold many 37s?

Not sure which ones he has sold in the past, but I understand that he currently owns 37418, 508, 503 and 97301.

 

[Forty29]

Saw a video with 97301 stored looks very in need of TLC.Think has been used for spares in the past.?

 

[37114]

Not sure which ones he has sold in the past, but I understand that he currently owns 37418, 508, 503 and 97301.

If it is the same person then he owned 37099 and 37518 as well

 

[Wyrleybart]

Saw a video with 97301 stored looks very in need of TLC.Think has been used for spares in the past.?

To be fair though. it is a whole lot more weatherproof than it was when stripped at Colwick. Pretty sure it lost all it's windows whilst there, and was thought by some to be heading for a scrapyard.

 

[ExRes]

Reported today on Rail Scene facebook that 60050 & 60086 are on the move from Kinsley, 086 was loaded onto a trailer and moved across the yard while 050 is due to be moved tomorrow, both have had their engines removed and there are numerous destination guesses but nothing with any corroboration as yet


** Updated 16th May - Reported on WNXX that 086 was loaded for repositioning then 050 was loaded for removal from the site which is due to get underway this morning. "While these two Class 60s have/had been touted to the scrap industry for disposal, it looks like a buyer has stepped in at the last minute and (it has been indicated that) these two Class 60s are now to be moved to Boden Rail at Colwick / Rectory Junction"

** Posted on Class 60 facebook that the lorry driver confirmed he's on the way to Colwick

** 60050 now parked outside Boden Rail until Monday morning

 

[The_Train]

Reported today on Rail Scene facebook that 60050 & 60086 are on the move from Kinsley, 086 was loaded onto a trailer and moved across the yard while 050 is due to be moved tomorrow, both have had their engines removed and there are numerous destination guesses but nothing with any corroboration as yet


** Updated 16th May - Reported on WNXX that 086 was loaded for repositioning then 050 was loaded for removal from the site which is due to get underway this morning. "While these two Class 60s have/had been touted to the scrap industry for disposal, it looks like a buyer has stepped in at the last minute and (it has been indicated that) these two Class 60s are now to be moved to Boden Rail at Colwick / Rectory Junction"

** Posted on Class 60 facebook that the lorry driver confirmed he's on the way to Colwick

** 60050 now parked outside Boden Rail until Monday morning

Great news that 050 gets to live another day. It will be interesting to see what the plans are for it

 

[37114]

Great news that 050 gets to live another day. It will be interesting to see what the plans are for it

I wouldn't get too excited yet, assuming the buyer is DCR (as Boden are doing some of the Class 60 Overhauls for DCR), they maybe for overhaul, alternatively they could be for spares as per 60075 for example.