twistedgloom
New Member
I was recently traveling to Manchester station. I’d bought a return ticket the day before but couldn’t find it so intended to buy a new single.
I thought I had purchased my ticket but came to the ticket barriers and saw that the Apple Pay didn’t go through. There are always barriers at this station and the ticket is only £6 so I didn’t intend to evade my fare it was simply a mistake.
I bought another ticket and I explained the situation to the station staff and showed them the ticket which they scanned. They said they will be issuing a penalty fare notice as the ticket is invalid due to it being for the wrong train time. I refused to give my details but of course they can find them from the scanned e-ticket.
One staff member said if I find a valid ticket I can leave the station and eventually I did find my paper ticket. I exited the station with the ticket and then went back to tell them I found the ticket and am leaving. They said because I didn’t show them the ticket I have committed fraud and they will get my details and prosecute. He said I need to show him the valid ticket but it was already in the machine so this was not possible. Based on what they said I believe they think I bought a new ticket on my phone but this is not the case. I also didn’t exit using the previous invalid ticket they scanned as I got it refunded on the Trainline app. I showed them the paper receipts that I had but this did not change their stance.
What is the likelihood of a successful prosecution? Will I be able to submit my evidence of the valid ticket I have that was purchased the previous day? I kept all the receipts but don’t have the return journey as i inserted it in the machine.
Sorry for the long post and appreciate any advice.
I thought I had purchased my ticket but came to the ticket barriers and saw that the Apple Pay didn’t go through. There are always barriers at this station and the ticket is only £6 so I didn’t intend to evade my fare it was simply a mistake.
I bought another ticket and I explained the situation to the station staff and showed them the ticket which they scanned. They said they will be issuing a penalty fare notice as the ticket is invalid due to it being for the wrong train time. I refused to give my details but of course they can find them from the scanned e-ticket.
One staff member said if I find a valid ticket I can leave the station and eventually I did find my paper ticket. I exited the station with the ticket and then went back to tell them I found the ticket and am leaving. They said because I didn’t show them the ticket I have committed fraud and they will get my details and prosecute. He said I need to show him the valid ticket but it was already in the machine so this was not possible. Based on what they said I believe they think I bought a new ticket on my phone but this is not the case. I also didn’t exit using the previous invalid ticket they scanned as I got it refunded on the Trainline app. I showed them the paper receipts that I had but this did not change their stance.
What is the likelihood of a successful prosecution? Will I be able to submit my evidence of the valid ticket I have that was purchased the previous day? I kept all the receipts but don’t have the return journey as i inserted it in the machine.
Sorry for the long post and appreciate any advice.