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Part 1.

The aim of the day was to catch the Poppit Rocket, an infrequent bus service along the coast between Cardigan and Fishguard. To get decent use out of the ticket and explore a bit more I had worked out timings departing Bridgend at 0702 but as I was awake at 0500 I decided to catch the previous train to Carmarthen at 0607 which meant I didn't have to worry about a tight connection later in the day. 175010 trundled in to call everywhere to Carnarthen. I found a seat in a warm area travelling backwards and was pleased that there were people boarding and/or alighting at all stations. The level crossing barriers at Port Talbot are still operating even though the road is blocked by a concrete barrier. There is still a pedestrian route across and the end of the platform at the crossing end is the disabled access to the station as there are only stairs to the island platform at present. Now travelling forwards from Swansea I had my first view of the revamped Gowerton station. Last time I headed this way the work was in progress so I did a mixture of the District Line and some very well driven Rail Replacement buses. Gowerton certainly looks better. Much brighter. The bridge has steps and a ramp. At least a ramp can't break down like a lift! Continuing westward we pass a selection of wagons at Trostre which look like they have been there some time with the vegetation that has grown up around them before passing through the remaining semaphore signalling sections at Kidwelly and Ferryside where we crossed the Carmarthen - London Paddington service. Carmarthen is reached spot on time though I was disappointed to find that the buffet is no longer a proper cafe so my plans for a bacon roll had to be postponed.
To be continued.
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Over the road to the bus stop for Arriva Bus 40 Carmarthen - Aberystwyth 0808 departure as far as Aberaeron. Richards Bros 460 service to Cardigan was also due to depart at 0808 so I had visions of the number 40 sailing past. I needn't have worried as they departed 5 minutes apart and we still had to wait time at Carmarthen bus station. CX58 EUE Wright bodied VDL twas the traction. Seat over nearside rear wheelarch. Two other passengers. Driven with confidence. The driver certainly knew the vehicle's dimensions and hit bends at exactly the right speed. I did check behind when we met a lorry on one bend to see if the garden fence was still standing. it was. :) The route has changed since I last travelled Carmarthen to Aberystwyth with fewer deviations to villages,. Half an hour after leaving Carmarthen we made our first stop in Pencader where the step was scraped on the raised bus stop immediately after a right turn. Outside Blossom Garage a vintage lorry and trailer was parked. Blossom Garage was the fomer depot of the fair sized bus and coach operator Davies of Pencader who shocked many when they went bust some years ago. A few more passengers boarded as we ran into Lampeter, surely one of the most remote University towns. From Lampeter there were over twenty passengers, mostly on local authority passes both elderly and disabled as well as some youths enjoying the last days of freedom with a mixture of English and Welsh being spoken. Amongst the stops where someone was picked up from a gateway to a field was the one at the Welsh Pony and Cob society headquarters. An organisation that must be bigger (and richer looking at their premises) than I would have expected. 90 minutes after boarding we arrive at my interchange point in Alban Square Aberaeron where I finally have my cup of coffee and a bacon roll from Y Popty (The bakery) . A quick wander round in a rather murky weather with a keen breeze off the sea. Great to see independent shops and not many chains. Garden tools (chainsaws etc) and mobility aids was an interesting mix in one shop. The limited range of toys made selecting a present very easy.. After a quick visit to the conveniences my hour was almost up so it was back to Alban square.
 
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Excellent report. Looking forward to more.

Sounds like you had a great bus driver, the problem with buses is the back ends which do swing out a bit however your driver sounds like he did an excellent job.

As for those raised kerbs at bus stops I have scrapped one on one or two occasions as I am sure the other bus drivers on this forum will have done. Certain buses are terrible for it especially if with certain bus stops you have to swing in a bit
 

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Excellent report. Looking forward to more.

Sounds like you had a great bus driver, the problem with buses is the back ends which do swing out a bit however your driver sounds like he did an excellent job.

As for those raised kerbs at bus stops I have scrapped one on one or two occasions as I am sure the other bus drivers on this forum will have done. Certain buses are terrible for it especially if with certain bus stops you have to swing in a bit

Thanks for the comments. We had an extremely good vehicle aimer which is the most important thing. One of the passengers who seemed to be a regular said to her companion "This one never smiles does he." I don't want drivers going round grinning all the time and acting like a Butlins Redcoat. Just acknowledge that I have said Good morning and that you find my pass acceptable for travel. A small nod would suffice.
Didn't have raised kerbs when I did some bus and coach driving but there was one bus stop that did for a few mirrors. I did hit it but got away with just knocking the mirror out of position.
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I was waiting for the Richards Bros (Brodyr Richards) 1045 550 Aberaeron - Cardigan service. Service alternates with the X50. The difference between routes is the 550 serves Aberporth and the X50 Blaenporth. Excellent timetable by the way that shows connections with Arriva services as well as their own. I was looking the wrong way when it came round the corner and just caught sight of a destination starting with A with a t in it so brain filled the gaps and decided Aberystwyth. As departure time approached I ambled down to the corner past the stop where the bus was waiting. Turned round to see Cardigan on the destination display, which then translated to Aberteifi. (Welsh name for Cardigan). I have always felt that these all singing multi display destination indicators are good in theory but it is so easy to miss the information required in the short time available to read it. Whilst not a welsh speaker I do believe in bilingualism and in most cases prefer the Welsh place name over it's Anglicised equivalent. Anyway. Crisis averted I boarded Richard Bros liveried Optare Tempo YJ55BKE and paid £5.50 for my Day Explorer ticket allowing travel on all Richards Bros services my Arriva pass having got me this far. There is also a West Wales Rover at £7.00 day, £28.00 week which allows travel on the majority of services in Ceredigion, Pembrokeshire and Carmarthenshire.Climbing out of the town had the pleasure of an indecisive gearbox. A few passengers on authority passes making short journeys then it was non stop to Aberporth where we picked up about 15 passengers. I was surprised there was no-one at Newquaybut the route does stick to the A487 bypassing the town. Aberporth was entered passing the MOD range and along some nice narrow roads. Credit to the car driver we met on the hairpin B4333/Heol Pentraeth for their immediate reverse up the hill. We rejoined the A487 passing the West Wales Airport which I didn't know existed. According to their website they are ideally located for for unmanned systems. We then drop into Cardigan via Tesco where I was surprised only one person alighted before terminating at the selection of bus shelters in Finch square. Be warned. Cardigan does not sign post public conveniences. I found some hidden behind the market and some more hidden in a back street very close to Finch Square. Again independent retailers predominate and the High Street is still fully open to traffic. Certainly gives it a feeling of a bustling town. I only spend half an hour wandering as i will be back later and I decide to have my sandwiches at the bus stop back in Finch Square. When asked if it was the correct stop for the Poppit Rocket the answer "I hope so." didn't go down too well.
 

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I boarded Richard Bros liveried Optare Tempo YJ55BKE
Lucky you (if you're tall). YJ55BKE is a great bus, as is YJ55BKF which is the same (plenty of legroom you see, at least at ground level).

I was surprised there was no-one at Newquaybut the route does stick to the A487 bypassing the town.
New Quay is some distance off the A487. The 550 used to be run by Arriva right through from Aberystwyth to Cardigan. Back then it went down into New Quay as well as Aberporth (the two evening journeys, which Richards run all the way from Aberystwyth, still do). Then the service was split, with Richards running Cardigan - Aberporth - Synod Inn where you had a very risky 'connection' to the Arriva 550 (now just 50) which runs Synod Inn - New Quay - Aberaeron - Aberystwyth. Richards eventually decided to extend their 550 to Aberaeron via the A487 rather than via New Quay. That did away with the risky connections at Synod Inn (which were worse southbound, as you had to cross the A487 which has a 50mph speed limit at that point), which is good, but it does mean anyone going from New Quay to Cardigan would have around 20 minutes to wait at Synod Inn (which is almost the middle of nowhere).
 

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Adequate legroom "upstairs" too but then I don't have very long legs. :) My complaint was the wheelchair back board obstructing forward view. One thing I did like over the Arriva bus was the lack of an assault screen but | do accept with sadness that they are necessary in some locations.
Very interesting route history. After a day of going for ten minute connections I think twenty minutes would be a lot less stressful.
 

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After a day of going for ten minute connections I think twenty minutes would be a lot less stressful.
Anything longer than 10-12 minutes though and you need a waiting room. Wind and ice aren't really bareable for 20 minutes.
 

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Anything longer than 10-12 minutes though and you need a waiting room. Wind and ice aren't really bareable for 20 minutes.

I disagree. Dress accordingly. Give me twenty minutes with possibly a brisk walk round the block and a more robust connection over ten minutes with a stressful journey and a much longer wait if missed.
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Part 4

I wondered what would turn up for the 405 Poppit Rocket. My guess was a Solo as that seems to be the smaller vehicle of choice. I was surprised when a step entrance bus with a manual gearbox came flying in to Finch Square on the dot of departure time. An E reg 31 seater Mercedes 709D (Sorry. No more registrations due to loss of pen) with the destination on a board at the base of the windscreen. Took me back to the early days of privatisation. About 15 people boarded, again mainly on passes. One youth asked the driver if he could wait for the 412 which had been delayed because a friend of his was meant to be making the connection. The driver apologised that he was not able to but as we pulled off the 412 appeared so the driver pulled onto the petrol station and sent youth off to find Antonia. I was relieved because he was digging his ipod out which I knew would be at an annoying volume. Their conversation was only just more tolerable. The seating was compact. Legs any longer than mine (29" inside leg)would not have fitted into the rear nearside seat. Lap restraints had been fitted but after a few miles you stopped noticing them digging into your buttocks. As we turned to cross the river out Cardigan we passed the castle. So much work being done. Lovely to see the wall without the massive steel braces that had been holding it up since the 1970s. A few local journeys before, at the third attempt due to oncoming traffic we turned onto St Dogmaels road, the B4546 to the car park at Poppit Sands before the up hill and down dale single track roads that make up most of the rest of the route. Having driven a couple of unstretched 709Ds in a former life I thought I was going to be in for an interesting ride at the back but not as bouncy as expected, helped by a driver who knew the road and slowed down for the larger bumps. Also the gear ratios always seemed a bit odd with gaps between the gears. Excellent driver in the right gear with smooth changes. Incidentally after years of travelling in automatic buses and coaches I had a manual Duple 425 Integral on a rail replacement yesterday. Also excellently driven but I do understand the operators' arguments for having an auto fleet. The driver was also excellent with passengers able to work out where tourists wanted to go from their descriptions, and remembering to stop, tactfully pointing out that English passes were not valid in Wales and vice versa. My main argument against devolution is not having a UK wide bus pass. The fares, if I heard correctly seemed remarkably cheap. The route visits several bays with reversals required at Newport Sands and Pwllgwaelod before dropping into Lower Fishguard with views across to the ferry terminal. The ship was in when I travelled. A climb then up to Fishguard (Abergwaun) square where I was the only passenger to alight. A town service pulled in immediately (Dart) so I decided to go on that. Straight up hill and into a housing estate where we terminated at the end of a cul de sac. The passenger who got off knew the driver and told me he was the best driver Richard's had got. As he commenced turning round I thought we were a bit tight on the recycling boxes from 2/3 of the way down the bus. I was right. Back to the square and an hour for a quick wander round and a snack. I will visit Goodwick and it's reopened station and Lower Fishguard another day. Had an excellent hot chocolate with marsh mallows and a toasted tea cake in a cafe attached to a sewing shop before returning to the square with it's cannon on the roundabout and sign on the pub about the last invasion of the UK.
 

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I disagree. Dress accordingly. Give me twenty minutes with possibly a brisk walk round the block and a more robust connection over ten minutes with a stressful journey and a much longer wait if missed.
Trouble with dressing accordingly for freezing wind/other freezing conditions is you then cook on the bus and/or at your destination. I did take an extra layer (which I could just about squeese into my rucksack when I took it off) the last winter I was travelling to Aberystwyth university, but it wasn't enough and anything more and I'd be afraid of losing something (and I did lose my gloves on the bus once).

I agree with leaving longer gaps between connecting services if decent waiting facilities are present. If a waiting room is available, then I'd prefer a 15-20 minute wait. On the railways (with PPM for some operators at 10 minutes) I personally don't feel like calling it a connection unless there is a waiting room and a 15-20 minute wait.

I wondered what would turn up for the 405 Poppit Rocket. My guess was a Solo as that seems to be the smaller vehicle of choice. I was surprised when a step entrance bus with a manual gearbox came flying in to Finch Square on the dot of departure time.
There is an Optare Solo with Poppit Rocket branding, but only one I believe. You must have caught it on an off day.
 
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Trouble with dressing accordingly for freezing wind/other freezing conditions is you then cook on the bus and/or at your destination. I did take an extra layer (which I could just about squeese into my rucksack when I took it off) the last winter I was travelling to Aberystwyth university, but it wasn't enough and anything more and I'd be afraid of losing something (and I did lose my gloves on the bus once).

It is a pain. We've just had the first few days where one end of my working day is just that bit too cold for shirt sleeves only but the train (unless it is the cold section of a 175) and the office is too warm. The temperature in too many homes/offices/buses/trains in my view is too high.

There is an Optare Solo with Poppit Rocket branding, but only one I believe. You must have caught it on an off day.
Can't say I was disappointed. Can catch a Solo pretty much anywhere.
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Back to Cardigan on a more direct service straight up the A487. The only route I did not do end to end although I have done the section between Haverfordwest and Fishguard on previous occasions when I would then walk to the harbour and catch the train back. Another Tempo on the 1453 412, this one with the monitor working me telling me how all the bus operators and councils are working together to provide a better service. This was the worst driver of the day although their shortcomings may have been amplified by the standard I had enjoyed up to that point. Nothing dangerous but you were aware of far harsher braking for example. However I know from experience there is always one vehicle in a fleet that you just don't seem able to hit the spot. Only two other passengers, both youths paying cash who alighted at Newport. Where were all the pensioners?! This journey coincided with the end of early turn on a working day so my brain had switched off and I have very little recollection of the journey. High above the opposite river bank in Cardigan I could see a the rears of a surprisingly large number of Richards Bros vehicles parked up alongside a building with the company name emblazoned across. In my 45 minutes I thought I would have a look. After walking past the cattle market I saw a building on a platform that just said old railway. On my return trip I discovered I had been walking along station road and a quick surf showed I was correct and how the rest of the station premises now looked. I never made it to the depot entrance due to various distractions on the way.
On the stand at Finch Square was an LDV minibus. When the 1625 412 to Camarthen appeared. (Optare Versa) a driver change took place, incoming driver taking the LDV. Clientele on this route was mainly frazzled parents and kids winding them up. This route is shared with Morris Travel of Carmarthen who operate use Solos on it. As we are leaving Cardigan the old adage of a bus route being the longest way between two places hits home knowing I have a 90 minute journey as we pass a road sign saying Carmarthen 28 miles. This route must have the most generous timings as the driver never seemed to be rushing and we had to wait time at a few bus stops. After following the A484 to Newcastle Emlyn we then turned off for a B road then unclassified to serve Drefach for the National Woollen museum. Must go there. When we reach the A484 there is a sign saying Ceredigion which suggests we are heading in the 'wrong' direction. I recognise the junction too and due to the road layout know we are going to have to head north west away from Carmarthen. Just before we reach the Teifi Vally Railway we turn into the village. Reverse round the corner and then join the A484 heading towards Carmarthen. Phew! Very few stops and whilst I do enjoy driving this road with all it's bends etc following the river it was nice to be able to enjoy the views a bit more. Good view of what is going on at the Gwili Railway. On the outskirts of Carmarthen the girl who had been annoying me with her ipod got off. At least her phone call was limited by the lack of signal. :) Most impressed with the short, to the point signs on Arriva buses relating to personal entertainment. "Turn it Down" and "Turn it Off." Much better than the Arriva Trains code of conduct with "For the comfort of other passengers and staff, when travelling with Arriva Trains Wales, please do not smoke, consume alcohol*, shout, swear, play loud music, loiter, be abusive towards staff and other passengers, put your feet on seats or vandalise property.
*This applies to routes where the consumption of alcohol is prohibited.." Into Carmarthen where I have 15 minutes to wait. A 158 to Fishguard passes through then I board 175005 1809 departure all stations again to Bridgend. Busier than I expected but the previous eastbound train is an hour earlier. At Llanelli it got very busy with some slightly inebriated and well dressed people who had been to the racing at Fos Las. I was quite glad when some of them were making arrangements for a night out in Swansea so I wouldn't have to endure them for long, then as come slowly round the curve to drop into Swansea they suddenly decide to go to Cardiff. I dugout my headphones for the rest of the journey.
Good to see buses well used and with a bit of planning it is possible to get around remote areas. Thanks for reading. Report is longer than I expected. For details of buses used. http://www.richardsbros.co.uk/bus-services.php
 

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Excellent. I confess I prefer buses with manual gearboxes as I find them easier to control. You can always see me getting very excited if I am ever lucky enough to driver a merecedes-benz minibus.

The problem you mentioned with buses built by Optare is that their brakes are very tempermental and its worse if you have just taken over the bus from another driver and you are trying to get the correct seating position and try to no press too hard on the brake pedal.

Best automatic gearboxed buses to driver are the Alexander PS bodied Volvo B10m's.

I am going to have to visit west wales to get some trips on tehse rural bus services. Pity the Vale of glamorgan Villiage bus network has been withdrawn as the roads we had to drive down were extremely interesting although never good if you meat a big lorry.

I do reconmend a trip on service 320 Cardiff - St Fagans - Talbot green as that has a few tricky spots with I have had a decker down
 
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Another Tempo on the 1453 412, this one with the monitor working me telling me how all the bus operators and councils are working together to provide a better service.
Bit out of date those, especially the example(s) which still show First as one of the operators. The 'working together to enhance your travel experience' I think refers to the TrawsCambria (where X40 was First/Arriva, X50 Richards and 550 Richards/Arriva as I already explained). Arriva are not really working together with councils/Richards anymore as they pulled X40 and 550 out of TrawsCambria (their routes becoming CymruExpress 40 and 50) and removed through ticketing with Richards except the West Wales Rover.
 

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It is interesting the variations there are in supposedly identical vehicles. I would have hoped that the driver would be settled in after 45 minutes from Haverfordwest but there was one coach I drove where I just couldn't get my braking to the usual standard. There is also the possibility that the driver was helping out covering sickness etc and hadn't done the 412 for a while so was familiar with the road. As I said before the standard of driving up till then had been so good it made things more noticeable.
The coach firm I drove for was all manual at the time. I did drive a few automatics but not for long enough. Always seemed to make gear changes at the worst possible moment. A well driven manual is great as a passenger but the problem is they aren't all well driven. From the passengers' point of view poor gear changes give a dreadful ride and from the operators' side the destruction of clutches. Dennis Javelins had a sticker "Always pull away in first gear." Now to old hands first is crawler only to be used in extreme circumstances so they were pulling away in second slipping the clutch. Several clutches later...
I wasn't aware the Vale routes had ceased but on thinking about it I haven't seen them on my trips to Cowbridge recently. Will take a look at the 320. At least lorry drivers on the whole usually know the dimensions of their vehicle. I am sure every bus/coach/lorry driver has a tale of passing another large vehicle in a tight spot only to then be brought to a halt by a car driver incapable of fitting through the same gap or reversing a few yards.

I think confusion over ticketing and a lack of information is a big barrier to public transport use. It doesn't help that driver education in what is valid is also sometimes lacking. Can't fault Richards Bros drivers or their website in this respect from my experiences though.
 

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Yes the Villiage bus network is dead after GM coaches/Est got stripped of most of their licences apart from one and now only operate service 88 Barry - Penarth.

Service E11 Cowbrigde - Talbot Green has been withdrawn by Apec Travel.

Service 145 Bridgend - Llantwit Major was withdrawn by Watts by now New Adventure Travel have registered the daytime services commercialls and have renumbered it service 303 with buses continuing beyond Llantwit Major to Barry and Cardiff as service 304. Only services after 18:30 on weekdays and sunday service 303 are operated under contract.

Service 322 Cardiff - Barry is witdhrawn with parts of the route covered by other services including service 320 Cardiff - Talbot Green. Stragely the sunday service on service 32 Cardiff - St Fagans is operated by Bath Bus Company (aka City Sightseing) using their low floor dart but often one of their open top double deckers is used.


The loss of the Villiage bus network in particular is causing major problems especially in cowbridge where school children from the surrounding villiages and towns have to be driven to school causing chaos in Cowbridge Town Centre and more crowding on First Cymru's X2 Porthcawl - Cardiff. First Cymru even put in a very price to the Vale fo glamorgan council to run the villiage bus along with Watts however the council decided they didnt have the money.

Yet the WG has thE money for their stupid Airport link where all they had to do was increase the frequency of service X91 Cardiff - Cardiff Airport - Llantwit Major back to every 30 minutes at least between Cardiff & the Airport. In fact the X91 is 5 minustes faster than the T9 and less prown to delays on the A4232 since it doesnt go via Cardiff Bay. Service X91 is also cheaper I believe.

It will be interesting to see what Cardiff Bus do to respond to the T9 since the X91 is more well known to users of Cardiff Airport than the T9.
 
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