Poole - Weymouth Resignalling Scheme Approved?

[Hentis]

It looks as though the signalling for the Poole - Weymouth section of the Waterloo - Weymouth mainline has been approved (mentioned in this news section September 21st 2006 (See bottom of the page)). The multi-million pound re signalling scheme will see the end of Poole, Hamworthy, Wareham and Wool signal boxes with what is believed a new ASC box at Dorchester (Area Signalling Center). As to where control of the various level crossings along the line lie this is also expected to be at Dorchester. There is no mention of the doubling of the single line between Moreton & Dorchester South. This work is to due to start in 2009 and be finished in time for the Olympics of 2012.

Before anyone asks this has been taken from the news section on my website... I have given myself permission to use it!!!

Cheers

Hentis

 

[Beaker]

It looks as though the signalling for the Poole - Weymouth section of the Waterloo - Weymouth mainline has been approved (mentioned in this news section September 21st 2006 (See bottom of the page)). The multi-million pound re signalling scheme will see the end of Poole, Hamworthy, Wareham and Wool signal boxes with what is believed a new ASC box at Dorchester (Area Signalling Center). As to where control of the various level crossings along the line lie this is also expected to be at Dorchester. There is no mention of the doubling of the single line between Moreton & Dorchester South. This work is to due to start in 2009 and be finished in time for the Olympics of 2012.

Before anyone asks this has been taken from the news section on my website... I have given myself permission to use it!!!

Cheers

Hentis

And it seems likely that it will allow regular trains to Swanage Branch

 

[5872]

And it seems likely that it will allow regular trains to Swanage Branch

That could be a good prospect I don't know why South West Trains don't use a 159 on Waterloo - Bourenmouth - Poole - Wareham - Norden - Corfe Castle - Harms Cross and Swanage service once a week!

 

[devon_metro]

As most of it is electrified...

 

[Hentis]

That could be a good prospect I don't know why South West Trains don't use a 159 on Waterloo - Bourenmouth - Poole - Wareham - Norden - Corfe Castle - Harms Cross and Swanage service once a week!

I very very much doubt you would see that happening.
Besides just to get a voyager down there it took some wrangling and a lot of paperwork.

The original thing was to have the 1st Gen DMU's from Swanage to Wareham, but these have all been removed from Winfrith (due to the sidings being required) and loaned out for the next 5 years. Whether we will see them down here again working is unsure.

Hentis

 

[Beaker]

I very very much doubt you would see that happening.
Besides just to get a voyager down there it took some wrangling and a lot of paperwork.

The original thing was to have the 1st Gen DMU's from Swanage to Wareham, but these have all been removed from Winfrith (due to the sidings being required) and loaned out for the next 5 years. Whether we will see them down here again working is unsure.

Hentis

sidings required, more likely to be ripped up tony!

 

[Hentis]

sidings required, more likely to be ripped up tony!

From what I hear there are several planned movements to and from Winfrith by DRS locos planned over the next couple of years that require the use of the sidings. DRS are already route learning down this neck o' the woods. GBRF are also routelearing today down to Bournemouth in a pair of ED's, could be something to do with a fair amount of engineering work this year and next again down this neck of the woods.

Hentis

 

[Beaker]

Yes but thats not the reason the 117s moved though hentis !

The only thing that may come down is to bring some waste in to fill some holes in, and there would be no need for DRS!

Edit : Dad doesnt know anything about planned use of the sidings.

 

[Hentis]

Yes but thats not the reason the 117s moved though hentis !

The only thing that may come down is to bring some waste in to fill some holes in, and there would be no need for DRS!

Edit : Dad doesnt know anything about planned use of the sidings.

My info was that DRS are route learning down here (they have been down here already about twice this year) Not only for Serco but for planned freight movements out of Winfrith. Network Rail wanted the sidings emptied. These 117's are on a 5 year loan apparently from Swanage to the respective preserved lines, Whether we see them back or not is a different matter,(you might have to confirm that).

Cheers

Hentis

It looks as though the signalling for the Poole - Weymouth section of the Waterloo - Weymouth mainline has been approved (mentioned in this news section September 21st 2006 (See bottom of the page)). The multi-million pound re signalling scheme will see the end of Poole, Hamworthy, Wareham and Wool signal boxes with what is believed a new ASC box at Dorchester (Area Signalling Center). As to where control of the various level crossings along the line lie this is also expected to be at Dorchester. There is no mention of the doubling of the single line between Moreton & Dorchester South. This work is to due to start in 2009 and be finished in time for the Olympics of 2012.

Before anyone asks this has been taken from the news section on my website... I have given myself permission to use it!!!

Cheers

Hentis

EDIT:-

It seems as though this has been posponed and the money gone towards the Southampton area Resignalling!!! :Roll:

Hentis

 

[Beaker]

My info was that DRS are route learning down here (they have been down here already about twice this year) Not only for Serco but for planned freight movements out of Winfrith. Network Rail wanted the sidings emptied. These 117's are on a 5 year loan apparently from Swanage to the respective preserved lines, Whether we see them back or not is a different matter,(you might have to confirm that).

Cheers

Hentis

A)The 117s arent owned by Swanage.
B)When i was in winfrith today looking at the 117s everybody laughed at the idea of nuclear trains , the rest would be censored.

 

[5872]

I very very much doubt you would see that happening.
Besides just to get a voyager down there it took some wrangling and a lot of paperwork.

The original thing was to have the 1st Gen DMU's from Swanage to Wareham, but these have all been removed from Winfrith (due to the sidings being required) and loaned out for the next 5 years. Whether we will see them down here again working is unsure.

Hentis

Hentis we will be seeing 1 of swanages DMU's , Last summer 2006 I was speaking to somone who worked on the railwayand they said they weren't aloud to run steamers to wareham because of enviromental reasons , so they have to use the DMU they got at swanage and the MK3 coach! well for the Mk3 I hope!

 

[Beaker]

you mean the sleeping car? you mean the sleeping car that isnt connected to the railway? you mean the seelping car that cant be used ? you mean the sleeping car which is on commonwealth bogies thus making it out of gauge ?

 

[Hentis]

A)The 117s arent owned by Swanage.
B)When i was in winfrith today looking at the 117s everybody laughed at the idea of nuclear trains , the rest would be censored.

No Dorset County Council bought them for what I beleive £1 but had to pay the transport charges to get them from the site, which was more than £1, ( where ever it was to Winfrith for Storage).

I never mentioned anything about Nuclear Trains did I?

Hentis

you mean the sleeping car? you mean the sleeping car that isnt connected to the railway? you mean the seelping car that cant be used ? you mean the sleeping car which is on commonwealth bogies thus making it out of gauge ?

JHC, take a chill pill and calm down!!!
Hows he to know?

Hentis

 

[Beaker]

Speculation is about the one thing which gets me annoyed , it is generally means people using 1+1 and getting 12. I would rather wait and see what happens. And the fact that winfrith is envolved does not mean it will be DRS.

Trains2 referred to Nuke Trains, im sorry for the confusion and apologies.

 

[Tom]

DRS primary work nowadays is the nuke trains really, so don't blame him for "assuming" it.

Speculation is what drives reality in a lot of cases though.

 

[Beaker]

If hentis didnt think it would be nuke trains why then the speculation for DRS ?

 

[Tom]

Because DRS are the ones who have been route learning down here... and that's not speculation, that's pure fact.

 

[thefab444]

With hired traction from?

 

[trains2]

Hey remember all that speculation that 442s were being taken off-lease in November 06, that was a barrel of laughs.

Just because you or your dad or people at Winfrith don't know what's going on doesn't mean it won't happen. I can't think of anything else that Winfrith will be used for, and this has been discussed recently. Of course I'm not saying it will happen, but with Winfrith suddenly being cleared out and DRS route learning in the area it's hard not to put 1+1 together. Besides, even if I do get 12, I really don't see what is wrong with speculating, life would be so boring if we all waited to see what happens, it's nice to think what could happen.

 

[Hentis]

The information I get from my source is relatively 98% correct. He was just one of the people to advise me of what was going on with the pigs. We knew alot of this even before it was printed in the magazines a good few months before infact and yeah, Its actually nice to receive thanks and Kudos from some staff and fitters at Bourenmouth T&RSMD who found out most of what was happening from my posts on my news pages, from my website that was then printed out and put on the mess room wall, to say I was humbled was an understatment and for once I was speechless. You should have seen the emails I got from suggesting such a thing would happen, some of them were down right nasty and obscene, and were sent to their Internet Providers or mail providers. I dont just say this stuff lightly. Yes I can be wrong, I am only human but the majority of the time I am not. Putting my self in the public like this works both ways but I will not tolerate the crap that I got sent. Oh and while we are on the subject of the Pigs... Gatex Drivers start Driver training on them this week at Stewarts Lane. I just got an email confirming that.

Hentis

 

[Oracle]

Interesting stuff and well done "H". I wonder how many GatEx are taking?

 

[Hentis]

Interesting stuff and well done "H". I wonder how many GatEx are taking?

That I dont know unfortunatley. I would not be suprised if its the 3 non standard liveried ones. But I am guessing that.

So we dont get this thread too far OT I have updated the 442 Whose out pages. :thumblef:

Hentis

 

[GeoffM]

I am only human but the majority of the time I am not.

LOL.

 

[Tom]

ign5:

Quote of the year!

 

[ChrisM]

The thing i find about Hentis is that his 'information' comes from staff but for some reason he seems to come across that he is the only one allowed to have access to this information.
I just hope he gives credit to the member of staff that provided it rather then try to make himself and his website look better, you will be surprised how many people do that and alot of staff dislike it.
I have friends and family who work for SWT and i know for a fact that a lot of information comes from rumours or overheard from ideas put forward from management.
I know staff members will happily talk to and give information to photters/spotters as long as they don't badger them 24/7 or when they are trying to carry out there duties but often this information in not FACT and staff quite often are the last to hear.
I remember an ex member of this forum who used to like to impress the younger members with banter, some of which was true and the rest to make himself look good.
I'm not saying that any of Hentis information is wrong but it's not set in stone and is from staff who sometimes are misinformed themselfs from other staff members (usually middle management) who misread a situation or have an idea which will never work.
Hentis information maybe correct at the time and then for some reason it changes but that's the railways for you it doesn't make him a liar.

 

[Beaker]

The information I get from my source is relatively 98% correct.

Hentis

If my ketchup started talking to me , I would be worried !

 

[thefab444]

Is he the Southern Pigs guy?

 

[Kris]

I did hear from a manager that the line between Moreton & Dorch will be re-doubled by 2010. If you travel down that way you will notice for a few miles that they have cut back all the undergrowth to double track width as if they have been surveying.

I also heard that the crossing at Wareham will be closed and a DDA approved footbridge provided instead.

We have a note posted telling us that DRS drivers will be authorised to route learn - didn't realise that's what it was for. I thought all Nuclear facilities at Winfrith had been closed down years ago.

 

[Hentis]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hentis View Post
I am only human but the majority of the time I am not.

LOL.

You really do not know how Bad my day was at that point. I was tired and fed up to boot. To basicly put it into laymans terms I think I was trying to say I am only human and will not be perfect all of the time...or something along those lines.

@Chrism

I just hope he gives credit to the member of staff that provided it rather then try to make himself and his website look better, you will be surprised how many people do that and alot of staff dislike it.

I can certainly assure you I dont go round trying to make my website better by not crediting people. 99% of the time the information is sent to me and the person does not want crediting.

As I stated in my post above on 26th March @ 11:29 PM

Its actually nice to receive thanks and Kudos from some staff and fitters at Bourenmouth T&RSMD who found out most of what was happening from my posts on my news pages, from my website that was then printed out and put on the mess room wall, to say I was humbled was an understatment and for once I was speechless.

I will state again that was totally unknown to me what was happening in the mess room at Bournemouth. When I was told I had goose bumps ..... I was kinda shocked when this chap told me.....

A couple of times I have had queries from people at Network Rail and SWT asking me where I got the information from. I wont disclose names if the person does not want me to. I always ask if the info they tell me can go on my website, "yes if you dont quote my name", comes the reply, with that I am happy. Not all my info comes from Railway staff either. A good 75% comes from outside the rail industry!!!

If someone sends me info I do my best to get another source to confirm. There is loads of photos I have been sent or information that has been recieved in my mailbox or by other means that I cannot / will not make public.

Now at the end of the day if people read it then they just have to take it at face value, because thats all I put it up there for.

@ Kris,

I had heard this as well about the single line being redoubled for 2010 (when the signalling work was being done, but apparently I have been told the money for the work from Poole (basicly thats where the new signalling starts) to Weymouth will be spent around the Southampton area.,

Cheers

Hentis

 

[Tom]

Wareham - Weymouth 2tph, Poole - Wareham 3tph should just about manage on the current AB working if the headways are reasonably lax.