Points failure at Bradley Junction this morning?

[Vulcan]

I'd like to know if anyone has more info on this.

I caught the 0745 Wakefield Westgate train this morning from Bradford Interchange, as I usually do to get to Huddersfield for uni. All was well until we got to the signal on the single line section after Brighouse protecting the mainline at Bradley Junction. We stood at the red signal for a while then the announcment 'Err...we have a problem. Its not a problem with the train but the track is broken ahead of us and we can't proceed. We're going to have to go back and go to Mirfield instead.' So the driver changes ends and we go back, quite fast through Brighouse and stop at Greetland junction. Then he changes ends again and we cross over and go back fast through Brighouse and on to Mirfield. Then all us passengers that travel to Hudds (which is the majority of a busy 155) piled out and filled platform 3, 155 goes off on it's merry way to Wakefield roughly on time again, then 10 minutes later we all crammed into a 153 that didn't know what had hit it. Arriving at Huddersfield about an hour late and ready for my sausage sandwich in the station buffet .

I don't believe 'broken track' at all, especially as the next Wakefield train seemed to be running on time, so I suspect a points failure that they managed to fix pretty sharpish. But if anyone knows better I'd be interested to know.

 

[royaloak]

A point is part of the track and it was broken! best to keep things simple otherwise it confuses people.

 

[DescendingSadly]

Apparently train failed at Todmorden. Can't see how that would affect Hudds services unless a unit was sent to assist.

 

[Hydro]

A point is part of the track and it was broken! best to keep things simple otherwise it confuses people.

I fail to see how "the left hand stock rail is subject to an 053 hazard 2 failure and as such has been banned to facing moves due to an NR4 reading of 11" would confuse someone.






Not that this is the case here, you understand.

 

[royaloak]

I rest my case your honour

 

[Vulcan]

A point is part of the track and it was broken! best to keep things simple otherwise it confuses people.

True enough, but it amused me how people were phoning into work explaining 'the track is broken!' as though the rails have physicaly snapped

I was wondering if anyone could confirm it being a point failure? Or did the rails ACTUALLY snap?? (seems unlikely to me though)

 

[Hydro]

There are any number of things that could be classified as point failures. If anyone has access to the area Control logs that'll say the exact cause.

Sometimes the information passed to passengers isn't quite the real reason. I have seen broken rails described as "signalling problems" (ok the pedantic could argue that the broken rail did in fact drop the track).

It's not -that- uncommon to find snapped rails as the weather gets colder in (mainly overstressed) CWR, as the rail contracts it literally pulls itself apart. Still fairly rare though.

 

[142094]

True enough, but it amused me how people were phoning into work explaining 'the track is broken!' as though the rails have physicaly snapped

Nothing new there, I was on one near Middlesbrough that was terminated due to a lorry striking a bridge (conductor told us it was a bridge strike). About four people on their mobiles said that a train had hit a bridge (wrong), one person said "they (Northern staff) are on strike" (wrong), then one person asked me what strike meant.

 

[royaloak]

And they wonder why we extract the urine at times.