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1420 Lincoln to Kings Cross cancelled
Rrb advertised to Newark despite there being an EMR trzin only seven minutes later this :with a 10 minute connection
1420 Lincoln to Kings Cross cancelled
Rrb advertised to Newark despite there being an EMR trzin only seven minutes later this :with a 10 minute connection
If the cancelled train wasn’t run by EMR then I wouldn’t say it was pointless, more the TOC taking the responsibility of arranging their own replacement transport.
There was an occasion when Avanti arranged RRBs to convey their passengers between Llandudno Junction and Chester even though the possession had been cancelled and TfW had reinstated a normal service. Apparently Avanti have longer planning timescales than TfW.
If we had "the railway" then passengers would just be able to catch the next train, without having to worry about which operator is running each train, whether there is ticket acceptance, or who to claim from in the event of a delay.
And we wouldn't end up with buses being provided when there is a perfectly good train service in operation.
That's fine, but it was already pointed out that the next train was only a 2 car. While it may not have been full and standing at that point, it presumably had other stops to make down the line.
That's fine, but it was already pointed out that the next train was only a 2 car. While it may not have been full and standing at that point, it presumably had other stops to make down the line.
I'm just basing my earlier comment on my limited experience at Newark Northgate, and I've seem some quite busy LNER services towards/from Lincoln. Probably two coaches worth if everybody squeezed together.
I've had a look at the origin destination matrix and London is the biggest flow from Lincoln Central, at 317 daily journeys.
If LNER didn't get bus(es) sorted and the EMR unit was overwhelmed then people would also complain!
That's fine, but it was already pointed out that the next train was only a 2 car. While it may not have been full and standing at that point, it presumably had other stops to make down the line.
Real-time train running information for 2T46 1427 departure from Lincoln Central to Newark Northgate on 15/09/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
That's fine, but it was already pointed out that the next train was only a 2 car. While it may not have been full and standing at that point, it presumably had other stops to make down the line.
There were certainly more than 83 changing off the EMR service - at least two of us had open tickets and did not have reserved seats on the cancelled train.
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Or Peterborough - a much more pleasant experience - but yesterday was Sunday so that wouldn;t have been an option.
The EMR services were frequently overwhelmed when they were opderated by 153s. Mid afternoon on a Sunday it was quite busy - may be yesterday was atypical as it is the start of the University term so there would be more people travelling than usual, although Lincoln is a net importer of students, so trains to - not from - that city would have been busier.
Of course in a normal world you don't sell at least 83 tickets then make a decision to cancel a train.
And logically if had plenty of time to hire a bus, could probably have theoretically moved a replacement train from somewhere, even if something else had to be canned at Newark to provide it.
Of course in a normal world you don't sell at least 83 tickets then make a decision to cancel a train, and logically if had plenty of time to hire a bus, could probably have theoretically moved a replacement train from somewhere
Why was the train cancelled? From where and how long would it take to get a replacement train?
Has it been determined if ticket acceptance was issued on the EMR? If it wasn't then that is why a bus was put on, if it was then it at least gave people an alternative way to travel.
Again this is complaining for the sake of complaining.
We still haven’t been told whether ticket acceptance was in place with EMR. If it wasn’t, as seems likely, there would have been a barrage of complaints on here had no RRB been provided.
Of course in a normal world you don't sell at least 83 tickets then make a decision to cancel a train.
And logically if had plenty of time to hire a bus, could probably have theoretically moved a replacement train from somewhere, even if something else had to be canned at Newark to provide it.
Yes, but often it was best to walk from Castle vice relying on the northgate for the service that started from Northgate due to timings. I had to make the journey many a time! The direct service has induced demand on the route. And the EMR Lincoln to Nottingham via Castle is also often very busy now too. There's been a good amount of passenger growth on the route.
Running a replacement bus even if not strictly needed helps EMR by splitting the loading a bit in case more than originally booked do turn up on the day. Also LNER run a seat guarantee scheme so perhaps this impacts the decision. Guaranteed seat on the bus or chance it on the EMR.
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