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Platform staff using torches as signals

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ralphchadkirk

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Although to be fair, white is an absence of colour.
Absence could also be described as clear.
Therefore the colour of the light, could be said as clear.

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No, White is every colour. Black is the absence of all colour.


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Why would you want one if you don't have to dispatch anything? And anyway - of course they're protected assets - they don't want every Tom, Dick or Harry having one!

They weren't protecting them very well at CST the other day; I saw two lying about which I could easily have taken.
 

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Why would you want a safety critical piece of kit such as a sats board?
What would you do with it? Just out of curiosity.
 

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No, White is every colour. Black is the absence of all colour.

Though considering that white light is not limited in any way by the absence of certain parts of the spectrum, it could be considered clear light, as in contrast to spectrurally-compromised light.
 

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Why would you want one if you don't have to dispatch anything? And anyway - of course they're protected assets - they don't want every Tom, Dick or Harry having one!
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Why would you want a safety critical piece of kit such as a sats board?
What would you do with it? Just out of curiosity.

I'm a railway enthusiast and I'm interested in platform dispatch. I would love a bat but even on the ofchance I ever got one I'm not going to go and dispatch trains (unless that was my job).

Apologies if you thought I had some secret sinister plan for using it...
 

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I once saw two dispatchers on opposite platforms playing a game of imaginary tennis with their bats. Brought a smile to a few people's faces, that one.

No, White is every colour. Black is the absence of all colour.

One could argue that point, depending on whether you're using additive (CMY) or subtractive colour mixing (RGB).

The former works by adding colours together until you get black, such as combining inks. The latter by taking them away - if you put a primary red, blue and green filter over a light source, you'd get nothing.

Anyway... that's dragging this off topic somewhat!
 

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I've seen a few very short Sats.
I am only 5'6" myself but surely a Sat should be a tallish person simply so he/she can be seen in the midst of the throng of passengers
 

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Not entirely sure why torches have replaced the Bardic, unless it is for ease of use. At least a Bardic could be used as a tail light in case of a breakdown.

During a night shunt at Bridgenorth on the SVR I had to use my Bardic as a tail lamp and a head lamp (not at the same time!)

I had to revert to my paraffin handlamp to signal to the driver :)
 

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It's certainly the oddest thing I've heard an enthusiast wants to have...

You've got to be joking - that's comparatively normal compared to some things people collect :lol:

I'm probably mostly preaching to the converted, but it does illustrate not all enthusiasts care about just writing down train numbers, or knowing everything there is to know about each type of train etc, some clearly like district (and indeed myself) are interested in the operational side - how the railways operate, equipment used for train working, etc. I'm a heritage volunteer so I've got kit like a Bardic lamp, Halo, flags (not a dispatch bat... yet) and they go to a practical use. But even if I wasn't, that's where my interest lies so that's the sort of stuff I would collect, rather than bits of locos, or books and stuff - not for anything sinister, just purely as an interest. I can't see any harm in collecting stuff, unless you're some immature person who thinks that having stuff means you can go and mess around with it - and if you were caught messing around with it, you'd end up in a bit of a mess.
 

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During a night shunt at Bridgenorth on the SVR I had to use my Bardic as a tail lamp and a head lamp (not at the same time!

The Halo type come with a bracket for hanging on the rear of a train. The speed limits the problem if you ever have to use one... Oh and there is no E in Bridgnorth...
 

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I still use the old bardic when working the loco haul trains although i dont have a yellow aspect on mine. My lamp hangs proudly on my old brown leather kit bag :)
 

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You've got to be joking - that's comparatively normal compared to some things people collect :lol:

I'm probably mostly preaching to the converted, but it does illustrate not all enthusiasts care about just writing down train numbers, or knowing everything there is to know about each type of train etc, some clearly like district (and indeed myself) are interested in the operational side - how the railways operate, equipment used for train working, etc. I'm a heritage volunteer so I've got kit like a Bardic lamp, Halo, flags (not a dispatch bat... yet) and they go to a practical use. But even if I wasn't, that's where my interest lies so that's the sort of stuff I would collect, rather than bits of locos, or books and stuff - not for anything sinister, just purely as an interest. I can't see any harm in collecting stuff, unless you're some immature person who thinks that having stuff means you can go and mess around with it - and if you were caught messing around with it, you'd end up in a bit of a mess.


Thank you for your support.

I don't stand writing down train numbers, and I don't know the inner workings of locos like I'm sure others do.

I'm mainly interested in operations: signaling, platforms, gatelines (I love gatelines), tickets (I collect them), door operation, the role of the conductor and driver.

Yes I want a platform dispatchers bat for memorabila. No I'm not going to dispatch a train with it. Yes I'd like a signal in my back garden. No I'm not going to erect it next to the railway and signal trains with it. Yes I'd like a coat with 'Southeastern' on the back. No, I'm not going to wear it on stations.

I'm not stupid enough to get into trouble and scupper any chances of a career on the metals by playing about at stations with equipment.
I'm a train enthusiast.
 

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During a night shunt at Bridgenorth on the SVR I had to use my Bardic as a tail lamp and a head lamp (not at the same time!)

I had to revert to my paraffin handlamp to signal to the driver :)

Good old paraffin lamp - never go wrong with one of those. Unless you run out of paraffin, that is!
 

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When we were apprentices 4o+ years ago, we used to spend half a day nearly every week repairing broken Bardics - usually just a change of bulb or a clean up where the battery had leaked and caused a build up of detritus. There were probably over 400 in circulation in my depot so an attrition rate of about 20 a week was not unreasonable. Basically the same design as is in use today but I do like my new Halo. Being an LED lamp, the batteries do last a long time except when you accidentally switch it on when putting it in your bag just before a week off.
 
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