Photos of printed tickets - valid?

[Angmering1974]

Hi,

Those new style large printed tickets with UTNs that a guard prints off. Is it valid to take a photo and just present/scan the photo of the barcode?

Thanks!

 

[Hadders]

Hi,

Those new style large printed tickets with UTNs that a guard prints off. Is it valid to take a photo and just present/scan the photo of the barcode?

Thanks!

No, it isn't.

 

[Angmering1974]

No, it isn't.

Thanks!

 

[Tazi Hupefi]

There have been instances where customers have somehow managed to scan a paper ticket barcode into Google Pay/wallet etc - so the barcode is a perfect electronic copy - albeit it's just a barcode.

These do scan (naturally, as it's the same barcode) - so a gate or scanner isn't going to know the difference - however, all it takes is a revenue protection officer or eagle eyed conductor to spot what has happened.

In this circumstance, so long as the actual, original ticket is also held at the time of travel, I'm dubious whether there can be any offences actually committed so long as it doesn't involve anyone attempting to avoid their fare.

 

[OscarH]

There have been instances where customers have somehow managed to scan a paper ticket barcode into Google Pay/wallet etc - so the barcode is a perfect electronic copy - albeit it's just a barcode.

These do scan (naturally, as it's the same barcode) - so a gate or scanner isn't going to know the difference - however, all it takes is a revenue protection officer or eagle eyed conductor to spot what has happened.

In this circumstance, so long as the actual, original ticket is also held at the time of travel, I'm dubious whether there can be any offences actually committed so long as it doesn't involve anyone attempting to avoid their fare.

Yeah, I've done this before with a West Midlands rover because it was far less inconvenient at gates (though it didn't actually work at most gates so the use was limited). At all times I had the physical ticket for human inspections - if that's the case then I think it's pretty clear there's no issue whatsoever

 

[TUC]

If you're going to do that, why not just buy an e-ticket?

 

[Watershed]

If you're going to do that, why not just buy an e-ticket?

Might not be possible, depending on the fare in question.