Permitted routes on Bramley- Gunnersbury ticket

[jkdd77]

This is taken from my post at the end of this thread: http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1802467#post1802467
but separated because it relates to an actual journey I wish to make, and on which I now seek advice.

Is 'via Reading, Staines and Richmond' the only permitted route for a Bramley- Gunnersbury single or return, or it is also valid via Basingstoke, Clapham Junction and Richmond, (or indeed, via Basingstoke and via either Chertsey or Kingston to Richmond)?

The Basingstoke/ Clapham route has a mapped route on map LE, using Basingstoke and Richmond as routeing points, and also appears to pass the 'fares check rule' for travel from Bramley to Gunnersbury using these routeing points.

Bizarrely, NRE gives conflicting results on validity, depending on 'which way round' the journey is.

 

[OwlMan]

Are you using a "Via Ascot" or a "Not Via London" ticket? NRE shows via Clapham to be valid in both directions.

 

[jkdd77]

Are you using a "Via Ascot" or a "Not Via London" ticket? NRE shows via Clapham to be valid in both directions.

Not via London. For the avoidance of doubt, I am referring to Bramley (Hants) not Bramley (Yorkshire).

I tried again on NRE, adding 'via Basingstoke', and it will give an itinerary, but still tells me that 'I need to buy multiple tickets for this journey'.

Via Basingstoke is not the shortest route, nor within three miles of the shortest route, and clearly isn't a through train, so I cannot rely on that.

 

[OwlMan]

Basingstoke seems to fail the fares rule - SDS "Not via London " £20.20 Vs Bramley at £22.80.

 

[Starmill]

Not via London. For the avoidance of doubt, I am referring to Bramley (Hants) not Bramley (Yorkshire).

I was wondering why it was so cheap!

 

[kieron]

Basingstoke seems to fail the fares rule - SDS "Not via London " £20.20 Vs Bramley at £22.80.

In what way does it fail the fare check?

I'm wondering if it's something to do with NFM 64, as I can't see anything obvious in the routeing guide. I remember reading that someone has put a version on-line, but I don't recall the URL or enough detail to find it.

I just tried searching for Bramley-Gunnersbury for today at 13:30, avoiding Ascot, and one of its suggestions involves a £24.60 "via Reading" off-peak day single which none of the booking sites can identify.

I really don't know how NRE is coming up with the ideas it is for this route.

 

[Paul Kelly]

I just tried searching for Bramley-Gunnersbury for today at 13:30, avoiding Ascot, and one of its suggestions involves a £24.60 "via Reading" off-peak day single which none of the booking sites can identify.

I think that's a single to Zone U123:
http://www.brfares.com/#!faredetail?orig=BMY&dest=0791&rte=826&tkt=CDS

 

[kieron]

The route it suggested used the underground from Paddington to Willesden Junction, so I suppose that fits.

 

[RJ]

Basingstoke seems to fail the fares rule - SDS "Not via London " £20.20 Vs Bramley at £22.80.

RJIS just says no to the route via Basingstoke.
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I really don't know how NRE is coming up with the ideas it is for this route.

NRE is in a world of its own - it permits routes that are forbidden in RJIS. It also forbids routes that are permitted in RJIS and the NRG. It would be nice to have a list of every easement coded into the NRE website so we know what we're entitled to when we buy tickets!