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Pendolino Trip from Glasgow

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ecosse206

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Hi There,

My Dad would like to take a trip on one of the new Virgin Pendolino trains. We would be looking to set off from pref Edinburgh but i think this may have to be Glasgow?

We are looking to go as far as Carlisle or something, is this possible or do we have to run to London?

How do we know when we are booking that we will get a Pendolino

Thanks
 
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Hi There,

My Dad would like to take a trip on one of the new Virgin Pendolino trains. We would be looking to set off from pref Edinburgh but i think this may have to be Glasgow?

We are looking to go as far as Carlisle or something, is this possible or do we have to run to London?

How do we know when we are booking that we will get a Pendolino

Thanks

Yeah, iirc I don't think any do run to Edinburgh now.

If it going to London you can get it to Carlisle and it will be a Pendolino, if it is going to Birmingham it will be a Voyager...
 

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Yeah, iirc I don't think any do run to Edinburgh now.

If it going to London you can get it to Carlisle and it will be a Pendolino, if it is going to Birmingham it will be a Voyager...

Holidays are a good time to find a pendo in Edinburgh. Maybe easter may some as a result of the engineering work on the WCML diverting Voyagers to the southern end of the route.

Last summer it was possible to do London - Edinburgh via Birmingham on a Pendo 0842 IIRC.

Not seen any gen on this kind of working at recently but I am sure it will happen again.
 

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Holidays are a good time to find a pendo in Edinburgh. Maybe easter may some as a result of the engineering work on the WCML diverting Voyagers to the southern end of the route.

Last summer it was possible to do London - Edinburgh via Birmingham on a Pendo 0842 IIRC.

Not seen any gen on this kind of working at recently but I am sure it will happen again.

Although this was basically a joining of a EUS-BHM & BHM-EDB services
 

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I'm aware the above has lots of abbreviations which you might not be familiar with, so I'll speak simply :)

All train from Edinburgh which Virgin operate are Voyager services. They all operate to Birmingham New Street.

Pendolinos operate from Glasgow Central and run to London Euston. Voyagers also operate from Glasgow, but again, go to Birmingham.

The easiest way to check is to use www.nationalrail.co.uk and enter Glasgow to Carlisle, your preferred date and time, and see what you get. Any services running to London will be a Pendolino.

The price for a ticket which you can buy on the day will be £19.80, as long as the train departs after 0900.
 

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My Dad would like to take a trip on one of the new Virgin Pendolino trains. We would be looking to set off from pref Edinburgh but i think this may have to be Glasgow?

We are looking to go as far as Carlisle or something, is this possible or do we have to run to London?

How do we know when we are booking that we will get a Pendolino?
First of all planning your journey
Get a copy of and print out the Glasgow Central - Euston timetable
This will also show part of the journeys on the Glasgow / Edinburgh - Birmingham, so score through this, as you do NOT want to travel on those

Next decide whether you want Standard or First Class
In some cases First Class advance can be the same price as Standard, at off-peak times this will give you complimentary drinks and snacks
If you travel early in the morning you will also get "breakfast", but these tickets are not cheap

If you are only going as far as Carlisle, then consider booking to Preston instead
It doesn't cost much more, and the line is just as impressive for "tilting"
After Preston the line is straighter and the train typically runs at higher speed

Allow at least one hour at Carlisle or Preston, if booking Advance purchase tickets
Ironically, you can actually reduce this to just 20 minutes as it is actually the same train crew between Glasgow and Preston, but if you were late southbound they can be swapped and you risk losing the use of your return advance ticket

Northbound you are very unlikely to be offered the "evening meal" between Preston and Glasgow, on most services this is offered between Euston and Preston

I usually make one First Class return trip each month, Glasgow - Preston
I book specific seats, as some have good views, although more recently loadings have been very poor allowing use of virtually any seat in First Class (on some occasions I have had the whole carriage to myself - even had a quiet coach, and the Train Manager allowed me to use the volume on my laptop providing no other passengers moved in)

If you plan to travel at weekends, watch for diversions and alternative trains
In most cases the Pendolinos are replaced by Voyagers
If you are unsure try making a booking to Penrith, where at a weekend the train would normally make this stop, and it will come up as unavailable or a completely different time from the print out copy you made
 

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Last summer it was possible to do London - Edinburgh via Birmingham on a Pendo 0842 IIRC.

What was the running time on that?

sounds a good train. With the new Manc to Preston leccie route they could pick up there too. A proper Ada & Bert run.
 

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What was the running time on that?

sounds a good train. With the new Manc to Preston leccie route they could pick up there too. A proper Ada & Bert run.

It arrived at 14:22. There was no return. It formed the 14:52 back to Birmingham
 

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It arrived at 14:22. There was no return. It formed the 14:52 back to Birmingham

pretty good diagram considering it went via Brum...5 3/4 hours.

I doubt there were that many through passengers though. Was there not a KX -ED which went about 0910 and did it in 4 hours?

Maybe Ada & Bert liked the scenic route through wolverhamptoon.....;)
 

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I doubt there were that many through passengers though.

I travelled on the 08:43 EUS EDB via BHM last year all the way from Euston to Edinburgh First Class, and found it to be very busy, particularly on the Euston to Birmingham section.

Birmingham-Crewe was reasonable, but it got busy again north of Crewe, with me being turfed out of coach G on departure of Preston, as the TM forward from Preston decided to declassify coach G.

I seem to remember my 05:30 Preston to Euston Pendo being alot quieter than the 08:43.
 

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I travelled on the 08:43 EUS EDB via BHM last year all the way from Euston to Edinburgh First Class, and found it to be very busy, particularly on the Euston to Birmingham section.

Birmingham-Crewe was reasonable, but it got busy again north of Crewe, with me being turfed out of coach G on departure of Preston, as the TM forward from Preston decided to declassify coach G.

I seem to remember my 05:30 Preston to Euston Pendo being alot quieter than the 08:43.

these longer time and/or distance trains have always been a bit like that, whereas direct - fastest A to B have maybe 80% odd through passengers.

I wonder how it works out economically with these "arterial" trains as I once heard them described.

Crazy trains like the "european" glasgow-Harwich or Newcastle -plymouth...
 

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It arrived at 14:22. There was no return. It formed the 14:52 back to Birmingham

I don't know if it ran again on Saturday, I say a Pendo in Haymarket at about 1500. I guess it was to shift people from England for the rugby. Nice bonus for anyone not expecting it!
 

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No, it didn't run last Saturday.

I'm 90% sure it'll be because of the Preston-Carlisle engineering blocks occuring from around 12:00 onwards Saturday to Sunday afternoon 06/02/10- 27/03/10, with VWC running shuttles between Glasgow/Edinburgh and Carlisle.

The shuttles will probably be a mixture of Pendolino's and Super Voyagers, mostly Pendo's, depending on what's "trapped" north of Preston when the line is closed.
 

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Well, all I would say is, good luck to you and your Dad. I have only travelled on a Pendo once, and I found it rather unpleasant...claustrophobic to say the least, and as for the stupid "this seat is reserved" message (your Dad will need his glasses to read it!)...you join the train at Carlisle, but it doesn't say where the seat is reserved from...bring back paper cards.
For a treat, take an upgraded journey from Paddington to as far West as practicable and wollow in comfort surrounded by grand views and, in a 125, fine comfort.
Forget HS2...just build more efficient 125s (OK 140 if you must!) oh and er...captive toilets. Train travel must retain the enjoyment element...who on earth wants to belt along at 250mph (it'll never happen mind) in something resembling a Pendo...
Alterntive...The Highland Chieftan to Inverness before it becomes a "change at Edinburgh" for a 170!
 

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Well, all I would say is, good luck to you and your Dad. I have only travelled on a Pendo once, and I found it rather unpleasant...claustrophobic to say the least, and as for the stupid "this seat is reserved" message (your Dad will need his glasses to read it!)...you join the train at Carlisle, but it doesn't say where the seat is reserved from...bring back paper cards.
For a treat, take an upgraded journey from Paddington to as far West as practicable and wollow in comfort surrounded by grand views and, in a 125, fine comfort.
Forget HS2...just build more efficient 125s (OK 140 if you must!) oh and er...captive toilets. Train travel must retain the enjoyment element...who on earth wants to belt along at 250mph (it'll never happen mind) in something resembling a Pendo...
Alterntive...The Highland Chieftan to Inverness before it becomes a "change at Edinburgh" for a 170!

Yet another "one"....
 
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