Pendolino Sickness

[Lampshade]

Euston to Oxenholme isn't too bad, never had such problem, I'm yet to travel further north than that though.

 

[Broken Viking]

I've done EUS -> GLC at least three times on the Pendos, and never run into travel sickness whilst travelling. That said though, I normally stand up from Penrith onwards in the vestibule as I really enjoy listening to fast Metal very loud whilst doing 130mph through the lowlands...So the fact that I'm standing for half the journey (And that my legs naturally correct any errors in the trains tilt) might be why I've never felt bad on them!

So, it would appear, the poor APT was a national laughing stock because a few rat-a**ed hacks got sick and yet 25 years later, the much-vaunted Italian technology of the bearded one produces ... well, exactly the same effect and we have to endure it

The tilting mechanism in use today is a direct result of the research by BR up to the mid-80s. It was sold to an Italian company for basically nothing.

Exactly...And yet when I say that VT should bin the Pendos and buy a fleet of 370s insted, do they bother to take note?... :roll:

...No wonder EUS -> GLC still takes a painful four hours. From what I'm aware, the APT-P had the potential to do it in one-third the time!

 

[ralphchadkirk]

It's because the track is still from the Victorian era. Not the infrastructure per se, but it still curves around estates and other such things. Look at the curve radii on HS1 for 140mph and compare the figures to the WCML at 125mph.
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Exactly...And yet when I say that VT should bin the Pendos and buy a fleet of 370s insted, do they bother to take note?... :roll:

Because the technology in them is more or less extinct now. I wold much prefer a more comfortable, safer, nicer 390 than a 370.

 

[Geezertronic]

I used to do BHM-EUS at least 3 times a week for a year or so and never felt sick or nauseous on the 390s. I also never encountered the toilet smell or a non working toilet hand dryer that people tend to moan about.

My only issue is window alignment which is why I always used to try and book and get a First Class seat in Coach H where I knew the seat numbers and could avoid the alignment issue.

 

[Dreadnought]

...No wonder EUS -> GLC still takes a painful four hours. From what I'm aware, the APT-P had the potential to do it in one-third the time!

Don't think an APT-P had the potential to do 401 miles in 80 minutes as this would be at an average speed of 301mph hock: whereas its design top speed was only 155 mph.

 

[Mike Redding]

I've done Penrith - London and return 5 times now, the only time i've felt ill was the bit between Penrith and Oxenholme LD. Saying that, it was only the once and probably not helped by the hangover from the night before. A black coffee or 2 sorted that out.

 

[jopsuk]

Don't think an APT-P had the potential to do 401 miles in 80 minutes as this would be at an average speed of 301mph hock: whereas its design top speed was only 155 mph.

Don't get him started on this... though in testing P trains did exceed 155 by a fair margin (think 167mph is reckoned to be as fast they verifiably reached)

 

[djw1981]

Don't think an APT-P had the potential to do 401 miles in 80 minutes as this would be at an average speed of 301mph hock: whereas its design top speed was only 155 mph.

One third of the journey time in 1980.......which was in the region of 5.30-6hrs, thus one third would be in the region of 2hrs, as you say somewhat in excess of 200mph!