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Penalty Fare notices

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Is there somekind of minimum standard for such notices?
I have concerns that some stations have non-compliant notices, especially as these particular stations have 2 different ToCs with different schemes.

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These are still current AFAIK:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2018/366/made
Section 8 contains the mandatory wording. There have been numerous previous discussions, including as to whether notices are always compliant.

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Standard notice
1.—(1) A standard notice must contain—

(a)the penalty fares logo as shown in Part 3;

(b)the word “WARNING” in large, prominent text at the top of the notice;

(c)the wording “Please buy your ticket before you travel otherwise you may be charged a Penalty Fare”;

(d)the wording “A Penalty Fare is £20 or twice the full single fare applicable to your journey (whichever is greater)”;

(e)wording which indicates where information about the circumstances in which a person may be charged a penalty fare in relation to travel by, presence on or leaving a train is published or may be obtained; and

(f)the logo, and name if the logo does not contain the name, of each operator that charges penalty fares in relation to trains arriving at or departing from the area of the station to which the notice applies.

(2) The absence of a logo or name, as required by sub-paragraph (1)(f), on a notice only invalidates the notice in relation to the operator whose logo or name is missing.

The signs put there by the ToC that manages the station (GWR) are compliant with the legislation.
However the second ToC (TfL Rail) operates a different PF scheme which does not have compliant signs, and their logo is not displayed on the former's signs.
 

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The signs put there by the ToC that manages the station (GWR) are compliant with the legislation.
However the second ToC (TfL Rail) operates a different PF scheme which does not have compliant signs, and their logo is not displayed on the former's signs.
It's because TfL Penalty Fares are issued in accordance with Schedule 14 of the Greater London Authority Act 1999, which is somewhat less fussy about exact wording and the appearance of the signage.
 
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