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Paternity/Maternity pay and leave

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cpw

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Does anyone know what the paternity/maternity leave conditions are like at various TOCs, especially now that the law's changing and you'll be able to take shared parental leave.

And also whether paternity/maternity leave could ever be taken during a training period.

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Interesting question. I'm in the pool for northern and if on a course next year it would clash with our due date
 

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And also whether paternity/maternity leave could ever be taken during a training period.
I'm sure it could be taken but it would be unwise during a training period. Courses are run every "x" months and if you were to miss periods of it they may put you back to another course meaning qualification would take longer. If it was essential then i'd be inclined to wait until doing my handling hours at the earliest point to take it if at all possible.
 

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Statutory paternity pay is a waste of time in any company unless you have plenty of savings. I took my 2 weeks as annual leave so I could afford to pay bills!
 

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Statutory paternity pay is a waste of time in any company unless you have plenty of savings. I took my 2 weeks as annual leave so I could afford to pay bills!

To be fair Statutory Paternity Pay (SPP) is paid at the same rate of Statutory Maternity Pay (SMP) which currently is £138.18 per week (or 90% of your average weekly earnings if this is less). The only difference is that for the first six weeks of SMP it's paid at 90% of the woman's average weekly earnings rather than dropping straight to the £138.18.

Though I'm not sure I'd say it was useless as having two extra weeks of leave when you might well need as much annual leave as possible later to deal with the new baby is surely a nice thing to have!

Also everyone's finances are different. If you're on a reasonable salary (and therefore probably have quite a high mortgage/rent payment and plenty of other high costs items perhaps a full fat sky package) then suffering such a major drop would hurt and could make it hard to cope (though if that is the case some emergency savings or insurance might be wise to provide cover if something happens to that salary like redundancy or long-term illness). But there will be other people who either have low bills or are on a low wage so adjusting for a short period to a bit less money might be possible.

It's complicated and I'm not sure you can just dismiss it as useless in every circumstance.

That being said I do think that's unfair that SPP doesn't pay at 90% of your average weekly earnings for the two weeks and making that change wouldn't be a massive cost for employers (most can surely cope without an employee for two weeks) but would have a big positive impact for parents. Plus whatever happened to equal pay :lol:
 

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I'm sure it could be taken but it would be unwise during a training period. Courses are run every "x" months and if you were to miss periods of it they may put you back to another course meaning qualification would take longer. If it was essential then i'd be inclined to wait until doing my handling hours at the earliest point to take it if at all possible.

Thanks. Yeah I thought it might get tricky. Hard to even think about getting all these things lined up...
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To be fair Statutory Paternity Pay (SPP) is paid at the same rate of Statutory Maternity Pay (SMP) which currently is £138.18 per week (or 90% of your average weekly earnings if this is less). The only difference is that for the first six weeks of SMP it's paid at 90% of the woman's average weekly earnings rather than dropping straight to the £138.18.

Though I'm not sure I'd say it was useless as having two extra weeks of leave when you might well need as much annual leave as possible later to deal with the new baby is surely a nice thing to have!

Also everyone's finances are different. If you're on a reasonable salary (and therefore probably have quite a high mortgage/rent payment and plenty of other high costs items perhaps a full fat sky package) then suffering such a major drop would hurt and could make it hard to cope (though if that is the case some emergency savings or insurance might be wise to provide cover if something happens to that salary like redundancy or long-term illness). But there will be other people who either have low bills or are on a low wage so adjusting for a short period to a bit less money might be possible.

It's complicated and I'm not sure you can just dismiss it as useless in every circumstance.

That being said I do think that's unfair that SPP doesn't pay at 90% of your average weekly earnings for the two weeks and making that change wouldn't be a massive cost for employers (most can surely cope without an employee for two weeks) but would have a big positive impact for parents. Plus whatever happened to equal pay :lol:

That does seem unfair, although it's good that from April next year you'll be able to split the parental leave after the six week period however you like between the two partners, especially if the mother is on a higher salary. Thanks for all your thoughts!
 
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