Passengers abandon train at Lewisham with 3rd rails still live.

[2HAP]

It was easier to hook up a slammer to a diesel loco to run a skeleton service in the snow. Now with electric doors and the dreaded computer running everything, this is more difficult.

Is there any technical reason why that can't be done nowadays. I remember the days when a pair of 4VEPs would have a 33 or 73 on the front/rear in snowy weather. Seemed to work OK.

 

[yorksrob]

Then perhaps the industry needs to develop a system that provides equivalent functionality or reorganise its processes such that it recognises that passenger egress from crowded metro trains is far more likely to occur and move to pre-empt this. I mentioned up thread that even after 60 minutes at a stop 2M50 had still not been declared a "stranded train" so presumably nobody was even considering its evacuation.

I wouldn't disagree. Perhaps the system is there, but just needs a bit more training so that its used. Anyway, this is all speculation from me.

Is there any technical reason why that can't be done nowadays. I remember the days when a pair of 4VEPs would have a 33 or 73 on the front/rear in snowy weather. Seemed to work OK.

I would have thought that mechanically operated doors would freeze up, but there may be other technical reasons.

 

[Surreytraveller]

Then perhaps the industry needs to develop a system that provides equivalent functionality or reorganise its processes such that it recognises that passenger egress from crowded metro trains is far more likely to occur and move to pre-empt this. I mentioned up thread that even after 60 minutes at a stop 2M50 had still not been declared a "stranded train" so presumably nobody was even considering its evacuation.

I suspect the system which will be developed is not to run any trains at all if the weather makes this sort of thing likely to happen

 

[Jozhua]

Probably not saying much that hasn't been said before, but not having access to a toilet for 3 hours is completely unacceptable.

If it were me, after about an hour in a crowded train with no access to facilities etc, I'd be off!