Passenger wanted to drive the train

[PHILIPE]

Reportedly, 1C99 23 45 Paddington to Penzance Beds last night was delayed by 40 mins at Newton Abbot early this morning due AWS Fault on 57303. As the train was passing through Totnes, the cord (quoting old terms) was pulled and upon train coming to a stand person alighted, walked to the front and asked the driver if he could drive the train. Person was restrained and conveyed to Plymouth for the police. This may be somewhat sketchy with flaws in the report. I've queried how the person managed to open a door and it has been suggested that when the Pass Comms is operated it releases the CDL system.
I will publish and further and, perhaps more reliable details, if they come to light. Info was gained from another Forum. Train 111L Plymouth.

 

[mirodo]

Looking for potential guilty parties in the What train would you like to drive? thread...

 

[richw]

Looking for potential guilty parties in the What train would you like to drive? thread...

Have we a 51 year old from Canterbury on that thread


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-35051174

A man has been arrested after police were told someone entered the driver's cab of an overnight train.

British Transport Police said they were called to Totnes station in Devon at 05:45 GMT after reports of an incident on the London-Penzance sleeper.

A man was also alleged to have climbed out of a train window and on to tracks before reboarding the service, which carried on, officers said.

A 51-year-old from Canterbury was arrested later in Plymouth.

Delays of up to 40 minutes on services between Newton Abbot and Plymouth were reported as a result.

Officers said the man got back on the train and staff kept him onboard until it arrived in Plymouth. He was arrested on suspicion of obstructing the railway.

British Transport Police said: "At this stage, there is no evidence to suggest any threats were made towards the driver or other passengers during the incident.

"We would like to stress that, at this time, this appears to be an isolated incident rather than part of any wider threat to the rail network."

 

[CC 72100]

I've queried how the person managed to open a door and it has been suggested that when the Pass Comms is operated it releases the CDL system.
I will publish and further and, perhaps more reliable details, if they come to light.

I was waiting for this to come out

However, I wouldn't advocate details re. door releases etc. making it into the public domain.

 

[PHILIPE]

I was waiting for this to come out

However, I wouldn't advocate details re. door releases etc. making it into the public domain.

No need now as it has been reported he climbed out through window.

 

[DarloRich]

was there some unhappiness about the delay or some form of mental instability?

 

[Bletchleyite]

I was waiting for this to come out

However, I wouldn't advocate details re. door releases etc. making it into the public domain.

Releasing the doors on a Mk3 is easy, there is a handle (behind glass) to do this above each (or possibly only every other) door. I don't see that that isn't already in the public domain to anyone who has ever bothered looking while standing by the door of a Mk3.

 

[83G/84D]

He alighted from the sleeping car in his pyjamas and walked along the track and got on the locomotive, and said he wanted to drive the train.

He had some sort of tag on his leg and initial thoughts were he had been recently released from a hospital.

 

[yorkie]

No need now as it has been reported he climbed out through window.

Not the only recent incident of this nature. Someone climbed out of a window at Cheltenham a few days ago, and was close to being very seriously injured as a result, but he somehow walked away unharmed.

 

[47802]

I must admit when I get to pensionable age I might be inclined to become a delinquent pensioner and maybe try something like that

 

[DarloRich]

how the hell should the driver respond to that?

He can hardly let him aboard but then he can hardly leave him wandering around the railway especially if he may have health issues.

 

[HarleyDavidson]

how the hell should the driver respond to that?

He can hardly let him aboard but then he can hardly leave him wandering around the railway especially if he may have health issues.

He wouldn't have if he got owned by a passing train. Those who do stunts like this get everything they richly deserve.

 

[DarloRich]

He wouldn't have if he got owned by a passing train. Those who do stunts like this get everything they richly deserve.

whilst that may be the case the law doesn't quite see it like that!

 

[Clip]

It is a serious incident but I cant help but laugh at it.

 

[ExRes]

He wouldn't have if he got owned by a passing train. Those who do stunts like this get everything they richly deserve.

I have my doubts that the driver of that passing train would feel quite the same though

 

[DarloRich]

It is a serious incident but I cant help but laugh at it.

likewise!

 

[455driver]

It is a serious incident but I cant help but laugh at it.

Agreed, we were just about wetting ourselves in the messroom when we discussed this!

 

[lejog]

He alighted from the sleeping car in his pyjamas and walked along the track and got on the locomotive, and said he wanted to drive the train.

He had some sort of tag on his leg and initial thoughts were he had been recently released from a hospital.

I did once share a couchette with a sleep walker when Interrailing. Their partner woke up in the middle of the night and panicked when they were missing. They were found fast asleep in a seat a couple of carriages away, blissfully unaware that anything had happened.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

It is a serious incident but I cant help but laugh at it.

That reaction is far less troubling than:

He wouldn't have if he got owned by a passing train. Those who do stunts like this get everything they richly deserve.

Whilst I don't for one moment excuse what this individual has done, as someone who has suffered mental health issues and is on the autistic spectrum I can't help thinking that there but for the grace of Glob goes me. I understand why one might wish to throw the book at someone who has done this (and it may be the case that that IS the appropriate action in this case), but being hardline reactionary about things doesn't tend to have a great outcome.

 

[khib70]

He wouldn't have if he got owned by a passing train. Those who do stunts like this get everything they richly deserve.

So are you advocating the death penalty for trespassing on the railway, or for having mental health issues, or both?:roll:

 

[NSE]

I like a good joke, quite a dark one too, but I do hate it when people say cr*p like 'they get what they deserve', particularly if they are suffering from mental health issues. Of corse they need to be punished, but it's not quite so easy for someone with issues. Some people are so narrow minded it makes me sick. And yes I can laugh at this situation. But some people's comments....

 

[Peter Sarf]

It is a serious incident but I cant help but laugh at it.

That reaction is far less troubling than:

He wouldn't have if he got owned by a passing train. Those who do stunts like this get everything they richly deserve.

That reaction is far less troubling than:
Whilst I don't for one moment excuse what this individual has done, as someone who has suffered mental health issues and is on the autistic spectrum I can't help thinking that there but for the grace of Glob goes me. I understand why one might wish to throw the book at someone who has done this (and it may be the case that that IS the appropriate action in this case), but being hardline reactionary about things doesn't tend to have a great outcome.

I think the appropriate response is that the police are involved and at a later point in time a decision is made as to whether further action is required. Let the courts decide, with all the surrounding facts in front of them, what is appropriate - IF the police deem it necessary to take the matter further. We would not want to be taking the law into our own hands would we ?.
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[cjmillsnun]

I have my doubts that the driver of that passing train would feel quite the same though

Quite. As someone who has mental illness got through a traumatic event, I wouldn't wish that on anyone else.
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It is a serious incident but I cant help but laugh at it.

Likewise...

 

[scotsman]

He alighted from the sleeping car in his pyjamas and walked along the track and got on the locomotive, and said he wanted to drive the train.

He had some sort of tag on his leg and initial thoughts were he had been recently released from a hospital.

Mentally ill people are not criminals. They aren't tagged.

 

[Juniper Driver]

It is a serious incident but I cant help but laugh at it.

That's Probably the reason why I don't find this funny.

 

[irish_rail]

That's Probably the reason why I don't find this funny.

And I can assure anyone on here, having spoken with the Plymouth driver involved in this situation, it is anything but a laughing matter for him.......:roll::-x

 

[TDK]

Mentally ill people are not criminals. They aren't tagged.

Is there any evidence to say the person is mentally ill? Whenever there are incidents posted on here every seems to go down the mentally ill road without the evidence to back it up!

 

[3141]

Is there any evidence to say the person is mentally ill? Whenever there are incidents posted on here every seems to go down the mentally ill road without the evidence to back it up!

The evidence is what he is reported to have done.

 

[PHILIPE]

And I can assure anyone on here, having spoken with the Plymouth driver involved in this situation, it is anything but a laughing matter for him.......:roll::-x

I thought the Night Rivieras were all worked by Exeter drivers.

 

[455driver]

The evidence is what he is reported to have done.

So you are saying that anyone who acts like a d+ckhead is mentally ill! :roll:
There are millions of undiagnosed cases in the Country then!