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Paris Barcelona Sleeper Help Please

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I am planing a trip on the Train Hotel from Paris to Barcelona. The tickets are booked. I have just a few questions. Please could anybody help?

How early before departure can we expect to board the train?
What are the formalities at departure. Do you have to do check in, security and password control?
An evening meal is included in the fare. Do you just wander along to the restaurant before/after departure?
Do they really enforce the total 20kg luggage limit?

The rest of my trip involves the Eurostar, TGV and a ship. All of which I have done before and are relaxed about. It is just the Train Hotel that is new to me.

Thank you in advance, Stephen.
 
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At least 30 minutes, possibly more.

Temporary barrier across the platform at Austerlitz for checking tickets and security, I can't remember whether SNCF use mobile x-ray machines but RENFE/ADIF certainly do at Spanish stations.

Not sure about the luggage limit but I tend to travel with suitcase and small rucksack and have never considered their weight implications.

The steward(ess) when checking you into your cabin/berth will ask whether you want an early siting for dinner (8pm) or late 10pm. At the appropriate time just wander along to the dining car.

Hope that this helps, I have done the Madrid sleeper on a couple of occasions and it is a very enjoyable experience not least a 'proper' dinner in the company of what I have found to be interesting fellow travellers, enjoy.
 
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Thank you for the information and encouragement. My train does not not depart to 22:16. I guess dinner will be very late.

Best wishes, Stephen.
 

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We did Barcelona-Paris back in October.

As Alfie1014 say, it loads up about 30mins before departure, there was just a temporary barrier across the platform, no x-ray machines, at least not any that we saw at Barcelona Franc Station.

When checking your ticket, and asking which restaurant sitting you require, the steward(ess) will also take your passport. The following morning before getting to Barcelona the steward(ess) will return your passport.

The cabin will be set up in day mode when you first get on board. The steward(ess) will convert the cabin into night mode whilst you are eating.

Regarding luggage, the luggage is stored above the door (inside your cabin) in a space that extends over the trains corridor, there's space for two decent sized suitcases.
 

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I'm hoping to take my girlfriend to Barcelona soon and this sounds like the ideal way to do it. Does anybody know how long it takes and a rough estimate of cost? Or possibly a link?
 
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I'm hoping to take my girlfriend to Barcelona soon and this sounds like the ideal way to do it. Does anybody know how long it takes and a rough estimate of cost? Or possibly a link?

If cost is an issue then there is a French couchette train from Paris to Portbou on the French/Spanish border which is usually a lot cheaper and there is a connecting regional train from there.
 

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I'm hoping to take my girlfriend to Barcelona soon and this sounds like the ideal way to do it. Does anybody know how long it takes and a rough estimate of cost? Or possibly a link?

Because we had to be in Barcelona before 15.00, in order to catch a ship, and it being our first foreign trip by train, we decided we wanted to travel during the day and stay overnight in Barcelona ( just in-case anything went wrong with the overnight train).

We booked the daytime TGV , 14.07 from Paris (Gare de Lyon) to Barcelona, It cost us £74 each in standard. I did manage to book upper-deck seats on the TGV Duplex, But, If I'd been a bit more confident of what I was doing regarding French websites, I might have been able to book First class for not much more on SNCF's website.

I booked Paris- Barcelona as a return using Rail Europe, and just used the options it gave me. It gave me a daytime outward trip, but only a overnight return. I think I've read somewhere since that Rail Europe "push" the train hotel service.

Having booked the Paris-Barcelona leg, I then went on Eurostar's website to book the Darlington to Paris leg. The plan was to leave Darlington(Saturday morning) around 5.00 and connect with 9.30 E*. The 9.30 E* must be busy because the cheapest tickets were around £169 each from Darlington. After a bit of thought, we booked a 11.30 departure from Darlington (Friday), that connected with the 15.00 E* (£64 each), and booked a hotel next to Gare de Lyon for less than £100 for the room. The way we did it meant we got to spend an evening in Paris, and got to see a few of the sights.

The Return journey was by overnight Train hotel which left Barcelona Franca Station at 8.47. Having got off the ship at 9.30am we had spent the day in Barcelona. Please note there are no Left luggage facilities at Barcelona Franca, so we left ours at Barcelona Sants (its a 5 min train ride between the two stations, the metro station at Barcelona Franc is a 5 min walk, so it's best to use the train, which if I remember right is hourly).

About Midnight we stopped near the Spain/France border where a lot bumping and banging went on? Apparently this was where the "Change of Gauge" took place. Going from Paris to Barcelona, I'm guessing this would happen at around 6.30am. We had Breakfast on the train at around 7.00am and arrived in Paris (Gare d'Austerlitz) about 9.00am. Having left Barcelona where the Temp was 22C, it was a bit of a shock get off the train to find Paris was 5C

We were catching the 16.15 E* so we had most of the day to look round Paris. We left the suitcases in left luggage as Gare de Nord. From Paris we connected with the 20.00 from KXG and got into DAR around 22.30.

Darlington to Barcelona can be done in a day. But it means leaving Darlington around 5.30am and Arriving in Barcelona around 20.30, and with a bit more knowledge, it can be done for less than we paid (£64+£74+ £50 hotel= £188 each).

Barcelona to Darlington cost about £106+ £64 = £168 Each (Train Hotel+E* to DAR). We just booked a two berth cabin (First class= no evening meal included) Getting a meal in the restaurant car was no problem as there was room available.

Getting across Paris costs a few Euro's, we bought a Carnet of metro tickets on the outward journey, which left us with a few to use on the return journey.

Having done it once, and seeing how easy it was (My wife and I both have mobility problems which have to be taken into consideration). We would certainly do it again, Only next time I would be more ambitious and experiment using SNCF's website to get better choice's.
 
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What a wonderful trip. It is getting me excited about my trip. Good to hear it went well. Our trip is quite similar to yours. We will travel from Worcester to Euston via Birmingham. Take a lunchtime Eurostar to Paris. Evening and overnight in Paris. Day in Paris. Train hotel to Barcelona. Day and overnight in Barcelona. Join a ship in Barcelona for a cruise.

As you say you can do UK regions to Barcelona in a single day but it would be a very long day.

Best wishes, Stephen.
 
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