Pannier?

[Pumbaa]

Hi all,

Just a quick question - what exactly is a pannier? I know it's part of the Panto apparatus but thats it/ Only asking because today 350126 shamed itself by losing it leaving MKC on the US. We sat outside for circa 45mins before limping to Bletchley being dragged by 350232 which was already on the front.

Thumbs up to the crew though, kept everyone informed and even stopped to talk while trying to fix her. Driver even did a fair job by answering questions when we got to Bletchley re compensation and onward journeys.

 

[Sir_Clagalot]

and I thought you were on about some water boiler on wheels built by the GWR many years ago... lol

 

[Pumbaa]

Sorry SC - I'm on about proper trains!

 

[Turbostar]

Sorry SC - I'm on about proper trains!

You for real??? A 'Pannier' is a GWR 0-6-0 tank loco.

 

[Pumbaa]

You for real??? A 'Pannier' is a GWR 0-6-0 tank loco.

Er, yes? I meant trains with pantographs are proper trains, not kettles!

 

[O L Leigh]

Never heard that one. Are you sure you didn't miss-hear it?

Could it have been "pan air"? The pan is held up with compressed air. However, if there is an air leak or the Auto-Dropping Device (ADD) operates, air will be lost and the pan will end up on the roof. The ADD could operate if the pan becomes damaged, goes overheight or a carbon is lost or damaged and prevents further damage to the OLE and the pan itself.

O L Leigh

 

[E&W Lucas]

This a a Pannier:

http://richard-kyte.fotopic.net/p55801052.html

At least the most common version.

As has been said above, I think you've missheard something, probably a driver using jargon when communicating with passengers.

 

[Turbostar]

Er, yes? I meant trains with pantographs are proper trains, not kettles!

I think you may find some people may disagree with you totally on that one... good luck! lol

 

[Pumbaa]

Never heard that one. Are you sure you didn't miss-hear it?

Could it have been "pan air"? The pan is held up with compressed air. However, if there is an air leak or the Auto-Dropping Device (ADD) operates, air will be lost and the pan will end up on the roof. The ADD could operate if the pan becomes damaged, goes overheight or a carbon is lost or damaged and prevents further damage to the OLE and the pan itself.

O L Leigh

Probably that. Train guard managed to talk to control over the intercom, so we got a one way conversation. There was a big flash and brief noise as we left MK, I could see it from my window (I was in the coach behind the Panto) and then we just limped down the US for a few minutes.

Thanks though, I've heard the explanation before (from you!) always helpful to be explained again!

 

[dk1]

Panniers are also reffered to as the letter holders posties have either side of the rear wheel on their push bikes.

 

[jopsuk]

(seeing as we've solved the OPs problem) Panniers were originally bag or boxes on beasts of burden, arranged in pairs either side, to allow the aminals to carry heavy loads without centre of gravity issues. Bike panniers (on both pedal and motorbikes) are the same concept. "Pannier Tank Engines" were based on this idea, as opposed to "Saddle Tanks" (water tank extends all the way accross the boiler) or Side tanks, which further lower the CoG but restrict access to moving parts unless kept short.