Outer London station with the most redundancy?

[GodAtum]

I often advise friends and family where to move to in London, based on travel. i think the outer London station with the most redundancy is Clapham Junction, as it has 3 TOCS on 3 separate lines. It's highly unlikely to have all 3 have distruption at once.

I can't think of another station having similar redundancy?

 

[racyrich]

If travel resilience was my priority I'd choose West Ham. Unlikely c2c and District would both go for a burton, for even if they did then both DLR and Jubilee available and useful in either direction.

 

[Clip]

Travelwise you may be right or even Wimbledon would be good with both the tube and the tram offering other travel possibilities but the only problem with recommending these places is that they are bloody expensive places to live.

Though you could also do Walthamstow with the tube and 2 rail lines going somewhere and much cheaper too. This also has the benefits of good bus links to places close by like Stratford for even more links to get around London with.

 

[glbotu]

I think considering a single station is also misleading. You have to look at an area as a whole. For example, where my grandma lives, it's within walking distance (for an 84 year old woman) of 4 tube stations on 4 lines and one major National Rail station, as well as having very frequent buses to Central London. As single stations, each has limited redundancies, but together, it means there's pretty much always a means of getting in to London.

 

[Dr Hoo]

Surely the point about redundancy is not to rely on just one station. Otherwise you are just one security alert or gas leak away from total shutdown, regardless of how many TOCs.

The trick is to live halfway between two stations that are themselves on (at least some) totally separate lines.

Midway between Stratford and West Ham, for example.

 

[EM2]

Midway between Stratford and West Ham, for example.

Which is why, when I lived in Forest Gate, I was never late for work, except once when AGA screwed up their RRBs.
Forest Gate on the GEML.
Wanstead Park on the GOBLin.
Ten minutes on a bus to Upton Park for District, Circle and Hammersmith & City.
Fifteen minutes on a bus to Stratford for HS1, DLR, Jubilee, Central and Overground.

 

[gazr]

Wimbledon is pretty handy for reaching London several ways. Worst case scenario of station being completely shut means getting the Northern Line from South Wimbledon.

 

[Simon11]

In Ruislip, we get the benefit of Met line and Central & chiltern lines.

 

[Deepgreen]

Do you really think Clapham Junction is "Outer London"? I think your definition needs to be shared to allow sensible responses.

 

[GodAtum]

Do you really think Clapham Junction is "Outer London"? I think your definition needs to be shared to allow sensible responses.

Anywhere outside Z1.

 

[theageofthetra]

I live in Beckenham and am <10 mins walking distance from three different TOCs, three stations on two separate lines and Tramlink. Two nightbus routes too.

 

[anti-pacer]

ILFORD

If there's a problem on the TfL line into Liverpool Street you have Gants Hill tube (Central Line) less than 10 mins bus ride away, Barking (c2c, District, Hammersmith & City) 15 mins bus ride away, and even Woodgrange Park (LO - Goblin) 10 mins bus ride away.

HARROW

You have the choice of the Metropolitan Line and Chiltern from Harrow-on-the-Hill, and if they both went down, you then have London Midland from Harrow & Wealdstone, LO and the Bakerloo from Kenton, and the Piccadilly from South Harrow.

Harrow must be one of the best connected parts of London.

 

[Deepgreen]

Stratford is served by a larger-then-average number of routes and it must be quite hard to be completely stranded there.

 

[Deepgreen]

I often advise friends and family where to move to in London, based on travel. i think the outer London station with the most redundancy is Clapham Junction, as it has 3 TOCS on 3 separate lines. It's highly unlikely to have all 3 have distruption at once.

I can't think of another station having similar redundancy?

Stratford - AGA, DLR, LU, LO, plus, at International: Eurostar and SE.

 

[EM2]

Stratford - AGA, DLR, LU, LO, plus, at International: Eurostar and SE.

No Eurostars at International.

 

[Ianno87]

I liked living in Beckenham.

Normal commute was from New Beckenham to Central London, but in the event of problems, just walk to Beckenham Junction or Kent House. Job done!

 

[anti-pacer]

EALING BROADWAY

GWR and Heathrow Connect services, plus LU Central and District Lines. Also, Ealing Common and South Ealing nearby for the Piccadilly Line.

 

[Bromley boy]

I liked living in Beckenham.

Normal commute was from New Beckenham to Central London, but in the event of problems, just walk to Beckenham Junction or Kent House. Job done!

It's extremely well connected.

It's served by four lines if you include Catford Loop, mid-Kent, Chatham main line and Southern from Beckehnham Junction.

3 TOCs plus the trams of course.

Hither Green is also well connected with both the Dartford Loop and SE Main Line towards London Bridge/Charing Cross/Cannon St. Lewisham is only a bus ride away.

 

[Deepgreen]

No Eurostars at International.

Indeed - oops. I forgot that the name is no longer particularly helpful!

 

[3141]

I looked at this thread supposing that its title referred to the station that appeared least necessary, like Maryland which is only a few minutes' walk from Stratford and the morning rush-hour trains there are so packed you can hardly force your way onto one; or Sudbury Hill Harrow whose hourly service makes it almost superfluous compared with the nearby Underground station.

 

[rebmcr]

A lot of the stations that have been mentioned have many options but all in the same general direction.

My vote would be for Highbury and Islington since you have multiple options for each of North, South, East, and West travel.

 

[Taunton]

Unfortunately for apparent resilience, there can be a rapid knock-on effect.

Canary Wharf, for example, has the Jubilee Line into Central London, and you may think the DLR is a backup. But if the Jubilee goes down (fortunately not as often as it used to) in the evening peak, the DLR rapidly gets overwhelmed, not only at Canary Wharf and in the trains, but generally hitting first at Bank station, so DLR service to there is stopped as well.

Then the Riverbus gets overcrowded down at the pier, to the extent (as they have almost no staff on hand) that they have to close there as well.

 

[telstarbox]

I liked living in Beckenham.

Normal commute was from New Beckenham to Central London, but in the event of problems, just walk to Beckenham Junction or Kent House. Job done!

Catford and Catford Bridge, or Brockley and Crofton Park are other useful pairs.

 

[traji00]

Seven Sisters?

London Overground and the Victoria Line. It's also a short bus ride to Tottenham Hale for Greater Anglia trains, and a short walk away from South Tottenham on the GOBLIN.

Should those go belly up, It's also well connected by buses and has cycle route CS1 to the City.


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[jopsuk]

I know the OP is using Zone 1 as his "inner" London definition, but I think more conventionally Z1-3 is regarded as Inner, which is (roughly) North & South circular I think?

 

[theageofthetra]

Worse place I lived for resilience was Highgate. If the Northern line went down-zero viable alternatives as London Overground didn't exist then.

 

[Joe Paxton]

I know the OP is using Zone 1 as his "inner" London definition, but I think more conventionally Z1-3 is regarded as Inner, which is (roughly) North & South circular I think?

Inner and outer London is officially defined by borough. The old London County Council area (pre 1965) is inner London. And Clapham Junction / Battersea is definitely well within that definition, being situated in the London Borough of Wandsworth (an inner London Borough).

Seems like the OP really meant "outside of central London".

 

[sk688]

HARROW

You have the choice of the Metropolitan Line and Chiltern from Harrow-on-the-Hill, and if they both went down, you then have London Midland from Harrow & Wealdstone, LO and the Bakerloo from Kenton, and the Piccadilly from South Harrow.

Harrow must be one of the best connected parts of London.[/QUOTE]

Missed out the Southern from harrow and wealdstone , which might not get you directly to Central London , but it does get you to Clapham junction , from where it is easy , or Shepherds Bush or West Brompton . in fact from all 3 it is easy to get into Central london

 

[amateur]

WEST HAMPSTEAD

Served by Thameslink.

Served by Jubilee Line.

And has an Overground Station.

 

[Busaholic]

I live in Beckenham and am <10 mins walking distance from three different TOCs, three stations on two separate lines and Tramlink. Two nightbus routes too.

My married life started in a flat on Rectory Road, two minutes from Beckenham Junction and I had two separate lines to Victoria from there, not too far from New Beckenham for Charing Cross/ Cannon Street and (at a stretch, but one I never needed) about fifteen minutes from Beckenham Hill for Blackfriars/Holborn Viaduct. Trams then were something that had disappeared from London streets in the previous decade and, if you'd foreseen their re-introduction, a stay in Bethlem Hospital up the road would have been prescribed.