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Opinions: what would the ideal station info display look like?

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py_megapixel

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I'll preface this post by saying that I am not currently in the railway industry. I am merely an enthusiast with an interest in computer programming, and I am attempting to build an equivalent to the platform departure boards seen at most stations across the network.

My question is, at your ideal station, what would the Customer Information System (CIS) screens look like? What do you find good or bad about any of the current systems? Anything from colour schemes and typeface choice, to exactly what information is presented.

Any and all ideas appreciated.
Thanks!
 
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I'd like to be able to tap in when I arrive at the station and have the information directly on my mobile. Platform screens are cumbersome and out of touch with the modern world. I see many people on trains who are pulling information directly from their mobiles, rather than on the platform or asking staff.
 

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On the other hand there are places where I would be cautious about using a mobile. The information available, either on a display or an app really depends on the station.
 

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I'm really not particularly interested in mobile solutions. My project is to replicate a station display.

I can't see traditional CIS becoming obsolete anytime soon. After all, there will always be those who dont want, or cant afford, mobile devices.
 

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It's bad enough when screens have to scroll, without every third screen being an advert for ticket sales from Avanti.com.

How much longer before they start selling other advertising? <(
 

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Display suggestions:-
1. Any display that has two pages should have two screens. No more switching between pages on a single screen.
2. All 'information' messages (engineering work at the weekend, etc) should be on a separate screen. They should not alternate with train information.
3. Like the Brussels underground, the screens at stations (apart from terminals) should show a straight line representation of the route with the train as a moving point of light. Just a glance gives you the position of your train.
4. When things go wrong and one part of the network is out of action (a tree on the line, say), then the screen should show what is available rather than just saying 'cancelled'
 

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There are two separate areas - the foyer and the platform.

For the foyer, I'd like to see major stations have screens showing the next fast (i.e. not overtaken) train to the three/five biggest "destinations".

For example, at Sheffield, I'd like screens showing the next train for some of Leeds/ Barnsley/ Doncaster/ Meadowhall/ Chesterfield plus London - so that a lot of passengers would know which screen to look at (instead of casting their eyes down several trains that are heading in other directions)

This is partly because a significant number of passengers are heading to a small number of other stations, but partly because of the confusion between all of the various routes to a certain place (e.g. Sheffield to Leeds has five trains per hour but the majority of these are overtaken en-route)

Some large stations have a frequent service to a place that lots of passengers want to travel to, but passengers have to read through a lot of far flung destinations to work out where the next one is (using Sheffield as an example, there are generally six trains per hour to Chesterfield but you have to remember that the destination could be "Norwich"/ Nottingham"/ "London"/ "Southampton"/ "Reading" or "Plymouth" (plus various services a day that terminate at Birmingham/ Penzance/ Derby etc) - as you scan through the list trying to find the next one that stops at Chesterfield you could easily miss one (or accidentally head for one of the XC ones that doesn't actually stop there - most of the Thames Valley ones skip Chesterfield - so seeing an XC train for Birmingham doesn't guarantee anything).

I don't know whether having "black on orange" (rather than "orange on black") approach for some flagship services would help? As a rule of thumb, there are probably going to be a lot more people waiting for a service operated by an HST than waiting for a service operated by a Sprinter, so maybe there should be more prominence given to these services?

re the platform side of things, as I've said on other threads, I'd like to see much better information at platforms (which end of the train will have First Class, where Coach A/ Coach J are, ideally where the doors will open) so that passengers know where to stand before the train arrives - but this is probably a bit too much "blue sky", and it'd be a lot easier to deal with the "foyer" section (when talking about departure boards) - IMHO there's a big difference between the first impression that you get when you arrive at a station (foyer) and the information that you get when waiting at your platform, anticipating the train, wondering where to stand, anxiously standing in a scrum of people in the middle of the platform before you start dashing along to one end of the train as you see it arriving... this would be a much harder problem to solve.
 

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One simple idea: Especially as we have long moved away from 4:3 aspect ratio 'TV' screens. Make displays 'wider' so that it is less necessary to truncate and abbreviate station names. Especially for occasional users or passengers for whom English is not a first language, "L'P'L S'TH P'W'Y" is far less intelligible than "Liverpool South Parkway" for example.
 

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For the main station board I can see little better than a "classic" Solari type layout done using LEDs such as that at Euston, plus possibly a "next train to X" display for key destinations. The one thing I'd change about the Euston board is that I really dislike the boards alternating the status information with the platform information - it's really annoying - just have a field for each.

Distributed around the station there's little improvement to be done on a simple table of time, destination, status and TOC, with notes lines underneath if something needs bringing to attention. Perhaps to make it more readable the background could alternate in colour for each line.

For platform displays, there are a few different formats that all seem to work reasonably well. The one thing I'd like to see added is for the little diagram of a train that has been added on newer displays to align with a diagram of platform markings so you know precisely where to stand. If using a type of display that can show that, what would be even cooler would be (as I think it is on SNCF) for that little picture of a train to look like the real one.
 

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What frustrates me about a lot of the info screens at Scotrail stations, is that they will replace information about the next arriving train, with some informational message.

The screens at my local station consist of effectively 2 blocks of information, which will cycle through showing train information, and Scotrail announcements. The cycles however can frequently clash, such that both blocks will show some Scotrail announcement, thus hiding information about the next arriving train. In my opinion, the screen should always show the next arriving train in the upper block, and only permit the lower block to cycle through the various trains and info announcements.
 

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Here's another suggestion.

Let's say you have a bank of 3 screens, one arrivals, one departures and one special notices, DO NOT put the special notices alternating with the first two as well as on the third, as that means you can't see any departure or arrival information for 50% of the time.

Yes, you, Chester.
 

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Giant E-Paper screens, the modern equivalent of Solari.

No changing between output screens, the display should only change when it is being updated.
There should preferably be a tone played when the display is updating so people know to look up.

The display should be as large as possible to avoid contractions or things that might confuse
 

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At some stations, separate boards for local and long distance trains should be used. Cardiff Central is a particular station that desperately needs this. Why?? Firstly, the boards use the screen 1, screen 2 system. Secondly, the boards display in English, then in Welsh. This means that it can take quite a while for your train to appear if you are unfamiliar with Welsh place names (do you know where Abertawe is?). Thirdly, the high frequency of Valley line services means that at times the boards don't display a service until as little as 10 minutes or so before departure when there's any late running.
 

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At some stations, separate boards for local and long distance trains should be used. Cardiff Central is a particular station that desperately needs this. Why?? Firstly, the boards use the screen 1, screen 2 system. Secondly, the boards display in English, then in Welsh. This means that it can take quite a while for your train to appear if you are unfamiliar with Welsh place names (do you know where Abertawe is?). Thirdly, the high frequency of Valley line services means that at times the boards don't display a service until as little as 10 minutes or so before departure when there's any late running.

Surely the answer here is to throw more screen area at it so it can show Welsh and English names simultaneously.
 
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