Opening closing doors

[Lewis lamb62)]

Not sure if this should be in another forum so feel free to move.

This is a very simple question, if the train doors are closing and you press the door open button do the doors reopen? I constantly see people running for the doors but never find out if they get on or not

 

[Surreytraveller]

No. Unless the doors have been closed using the passenger 'close door' button inside the carriage.

 

[tiptoptaff]

Not sure if this should be in another forum so feel free to move.

This is a very simple question, if the train doors are closing and you press the door open button do the doors reopen? I constantly see people running for the doors but never find out if they get on or not

If they're "autoclosing" then yes. If the Guard or Driver has pressed the door close button on their dispatch panel, then no

 

[big all]

just to further add
driver or guard press the door release buttons local passenger buttons are live for both open and close actions
driver or guard press door close buttons local passenger buttons are dead instantly as doors go through the full close sequence

 

[tsr]

There are some slightly older trains (mainly Networker family or equivalent) where the driver or conductor can press the close button and yet the doors do partially reopen if a passenger presses the door open button.

This system has been involved in at least one trap-and-drag incident, with people caught by their clothing as a small gap in the doors has opened and then re-closed on them. As such I believe it’s being phased out in most places as stock gets refurbished.

 

[big all]

There are some slightly older trains (mainly Networker family or equivalent) where the driver or conductor can press the close button and yet the doors do partially reopen if a passenger presses the door open button.

This system has been involved in at least one trap-and-drag incident, with people caught by their clothing as a small gap in the doors has opened and then re-closed on them. As such I believe it’s being phased out in most places as stock gets refurbished.

There are some slightly older trains (mainly Networker family or equivalent) where the driver or conductor can press the close button and yet the doors do partially reopen if a passenger presses the door open button.

This system has been involved in at least one trap-and-drag incident, with people caught by their clothing as a small gap in the doors has opened and then re-closed on them. As such I believe it’s being phased out in most places as stock gets refurbished.

ok i stand corrected as my experiances are as a driver 25 years ago thank you for the correction

 

[tsr]

ok i stand corrected as my experiances are as a driver 25 years ago thank you for the correction

No worries. I can tell you do retain a wealth of experience in many other areas, which always makes for interesting reading!

 

[DavyCrocket]

There are some slightly older trains (mainly Networker family or equivalent) where the driver or conductor can press the close button and yet the doors do partially reopen if a passenger presses the door open button.

This system has been involved in at least one trap-and-drag incident, with people caught by their clothing as a small gap in the doors has opened and then re-closed on them. As such I believe it’s being phased out in most places as stock gets refurbished.

I recall being able to do this with Thameslink 319s. At least when they had the square buttons

 

[WatcherZero]

Some trains the doors will autoclose after a minute or two of being open.

 

[big all]

No worries. I can tell you do retain a wealth of experience in many other areas, which always makes for interesting reading!

i do like sharing but its getting the balance right between talking to an interested audience and being the old duffer in the pub talking to himself

 

[Deafdoggie]

Some trains the doors will autoclose after a minute or two of being open.

In those situations the door open button will work

 

[benbristow]

Some trains the doors will autoclose after a minute or two of being open.

Pretty sure ScotRail 380's do this.

 

[theageofthetra]

Pretty sure ScotRail 380's do this.

376's do this other than the last set either end.

 

[Starmill]

Nearly all new trains will auto-close the doors.

 

[whhistle]

Nearly all new trains will auto-close the doors.

I'd be happy to suggest all new trains do.
I believe everything from the Turbostars and newer do this as it's an easy modification to make, which keeps train heat/air con working better.

 

[IceAgeComing]

The S stock trains do this as well; making the open doors button actually useful for once!

I imagine that this is generally only used at like either end of the lines if there's a longish turnover and at Olympia when the train can sit there for a fairly long time before leaving - as I learned when I ended up there just as a train pulled in on a very cold day and was happy when the doors closed to keep me warm.

 

[Mojo]

The S stock trains do this as well; making the open doors button actually useful for once!

I imagine that this is generally only used at like either end of the lines if there's a longish turnover and at Olympia when the train can sit there for a fairly long time before leaving - as I learned when I ended up there just as a train pulled in on a very cold day and was happy when the doors closed to keep me warm.

It’s used at most stations as a standard setting (of course at most stations the train probably/hopefully won’t be stationary long enough for it to be noticed) there are however stations such as Baker St where the train operators are instructed to disable it to mitigate against platform train interface accidents.

 

[Dstock7080]

45-second auto-close on S Stock.

 

[bluegoblin7]

It’s used at most stations as a standard setting (of course at most stations the train probably/hopefully won’t be stationary long enough for it to be noticed) there are however stations such as Baker St where the train operators are instructed to disable it to mitigate against platform train interface accidents.

Platform close is automatically disabled by the CSDE system at Baker Street, and cannot be overridden by the train operator. I would expect the same goes for other locations with this restriction.

 

[krus_aragon]

I'd be happy to suggest all new trains do.
I believe everything from the Turbostars and newer do this as it's an easy modification to make, which keeps train heat/air con working better.

Certainly for those trains that have 1/3-2/3 doors and no vestibules. By was of contrast, the 175 external doors don't auto-close, but the vestibule doors do, of course.

 

[philthetube]

Platform close is automatically disabled by the CSDE system at Baker Street, and cannot be overridden by the train operator. I would expect the same goes for other locations with this restriction.

Baker St. is the only place on the Met, this is to try and dissuade people from falling down the gap on the curved platforms.

 

[Mojo]

Platform close is automatically disabled by the CSDE system at Baker Street, and cannot be overridden by the train operator. I would expect the same goes for other locations with this restriction.

Sorry I was more trying to imply that the auto close feature is typically at the majority of stations, and not just those at the ends of the line as asked by the person in the post that I quoted.

 

[rebmcr]

45-second auto-close on S Stock.

Except at the wheelchair area, where it is 60 seconds.